Hiringa, with partners fuel supplier Waitomo Group and Australasia’s largest heavy vehicle fleet owner TR Group, on Tuesday opened three green hydrogen stations, with a fourth under way, within the North Island’s economic “golden triangle” of freight movement.

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    There seems to be a general push against hydrogen electric transport recently. I agree that it isn’t suitable for small-scale transport, such as cars or even busses, but I do think there is a use-case for large transport.

    Ultimately the problem comes how do we get the electricity from the generator to the vehicle where it needs to be. Obviously batteries are more efficient, but they come with their own problems. They weigh a lot, which damages infrastructure, they require rare metals, they have a maximum capacity per unit weight.

    Of course they have advantages, but I think as the vehicle gets larger, and the charging time requirements drastically increase, I think there comes a point where hydrogen electric systems are worth looking at. Trains and shipping being the main ones, and potentially trucks.

    Of course, if the hydrogen is not generated cleanly then it’s moot, but the same is true for pure electric systems as well.

    Ultimately, I would like to see renewable generation that turns excess power into hydrogen for a train and coastal shipping fleet.

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      Recently I saw on Lemmy that California has an excess of power generation. Sounds like a good opportunity to jam it into hydrogen generators.

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        Absolutely. If there was the political will in this country, we would have an excess of cheap, renewable, power.

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      Yeah it comes down to energy density and time to replace expended energy. That’s why the most successful electric trucks i’ve seen basically go to a depot where the entire battery pack is swapped out for a pre-charged one.

      Of course there’s a whole other piece of calculus that is ignored in New Zealand - and that is energy efficiency. Reducing the size of, and need for, long distance trucking by utilising far more fuel efficient rail & coastal shipping would also reduce emissions; and would allow us to decrease maintenance and new build costs for roads.

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        I’m all for increasing rail and coastal shipping for cargo. Having lived overseas, it’s criminal how much we rely on trucks here.

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          Yup; and the previous increases to size & weight of freight trucks bought in by National governments is a large factor in the cost of building and maintaining roads now. While at the same time we continue to let most of our rail network degenerate and have done nothing to try to recover coastal shipping from when it was destroyed in the 80s to de-power the maritime unions.