Hunter Biden’s lawyer filed an ethics complaint in the House of Representatives on Friday against Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene for reaching a “new level of abhorrent behavior” after she displayed sexually explicit pictures of him during a hearing Wednesday.

  • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    51
    ·
    1 year ago

    hunter biden matters to republicans because he’s the only thing they can hang on joe biden, who has been honestly masterful in the way he’s navigated the late and post-pandemic.

    • sheilzy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      39
      ·
      1 year ago

      I honestly don’t understand why they act like Joe Biden is the only politician with a child who has addiction issues and/or failed relationships. Donald Trump Jr. is also divorced and has had alcohol addiction problems. During the Biden/Trump debates I almost wanted Biden to mention Don Jr’s problems since Don Sr kept bringing up Hunter, but fortunately familial attacks are beneath Biden.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        30
        ·
        1 year ago

        If they cared about what close relatives of presidents were doing, they should be investigating Jared’s deal with the Saudis.

        • sheilzy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          1 year ago

          The Kushner family sounds almost even more dysfunctional than the Trump or Biden families combined. Jared’s dad has been in jail for a while because he solicited a prostitute for Jared’s uncle(elder Kushner’s brother-in-law) because he wanted to prove to his sister that her husband was a bad person and divorce him. Jared and Ivanka’s kids will probably have to have a lot of therapy, not to mention Jared’s cousins and their children.

      • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        1 year ago

        I honestly don’t understand

        you’re still assuming good faith. stop it. they’re not interested in developing a well-rounded worldview and a rational approach to solving the problems that face America. They’re interested in seizing as much power as possible and hurting their opponents as much as possible. Once you realize that, their actions start to make perfect sense. Acting like Joe Biden is the only politician with a problem child serves that end. Ignoring Don Jr’s obvious coke and booze habit serves that end. There is no guiding philosophy to them, no principles they serve, no basis of human decency in which they even pretend to embed themselves. They’ve gone full Lee Atwater: they know who they’re enemies are and they’ll hurt everyone as long as their enemies get hurt too.

        • OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          People’s mistake is thinking fascism is an evil ideology that uses any tactics necessary to achieve its goals.

          What they don’t realize is that “ideology” and “tactics” need to be reversed in this statement: fascism is a cynical tactic that uses any ideology necessary to achieve its goals.

          It will hate groomers on Tuesday and find grooming “the only way to raise responsible, patriotic citizens” on that same exact Tuesday, later in the afternoon.

          It will hate nepotism and family connections in the same breath as it calls Ivanka “smart” for wielding her presidential clout to enrich herself.

          It will defend the sanctitude of the life belonging to a fetus right up until the main threats to that fetus are poor access to medical care, financial stress leading to miscarriages, and our unsustainable car infrastructure killing off pregnant mothers right alongside every other type of person. THOSE fetuses were killed by the laws of nature of course, (and they certainly lack a level of sanctity that competes with Americans’ right to be forced to drive twenty minutes to the nearest grocery store and ninety minutes to their place of employment on threat of homelessness. That “right” is inviolable.)

          There’s no ideology here. No utopia on the map. No belief about how to improve society. There is merely the last, dying , defiant warcry of a certain subset of corporations. A subset that profits more from maintaining underclasses than they do from providing a product to a stable society. A subset that needs to keep reminding black people that if they don’t like working for dirt wages at Amazon, they can always get the police involved and die with a police officer’s knee on their neck.

          And the question isn’t, “can our ideology defeat theirs?” Because there was never a single belief to defeat in the first place. The question here is “can democracy survive?”

          And so far, it’s holding up better than it did in Italy and Germay. 1930s Germany wouldn’t have thrown the Patriot Front in jail. Wouldn’t have convicted the Wolverine Watchmen, either. Certainly wouldn’t be prosecuting the Proud Boys who showed up to Jan 6.

          • MelonTheMan@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            Thanks for saying what needs to be said over and over.

            My concern is this is all going on the slow cooker. Sending proud boys to prison so they can be trained into better terrorists for next time. The right wingers who were willing to take decisive action were able to organize, meet up, and commit violence against democracy while our surveillance state did… Essentially nothing to prevent it?

    • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      What? No that’s not it. They highlight this because when liberals all respond saying they don’t care about this they help reinforce to republicans that they shouldn’t care about Trump’s prostitution stuff or “grab em by the pussy”. It makes liberals look like people doing a performance who don’t actually hold those things as principles because they’re entirely willing to toss them aside for certain issues.

      I don’t have a dog in this race because I’m not american.

      • FluffyPotato@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        23
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m not American either but my wife is so I know more about this than I would like. Like Hunter Biden is not in government and all he has done is smoke crack, have sex with prostitutes, swindle money from corpos by saying who his dad is and have a massive shlong so I don’t see the connection.

        Like american politicians in general come off to me as the most insincere people in the whole world. Like half of them probably do cocaine regularly, quite a few are obvious child molesters, pretty much all of them abuse their position just to fill their wallet with platant insider trading and the rest are owned by major corporations. No one there needs help to seem like it’s just a performance. Like the only thing in American politics that seems sincere is republicans hating minorities, they are just making that their central focus even if it’s not popular.

        • littlecolt@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          I’m American and have so far not had to see Hunter Biden’s cock, but now I know it’s massive. Good. Now I know republicans just LOVE showing off massive cocks to everyone they can.

        • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          Like american politicians in general come off to me as the most insincere people in the whole world.

          To be fair this isn’t limited to america. Liberals in europe are equally as detestable and insincere. Macron being the premiere example. I think it’s just highly noticeable in american politics because they have no left.

          • FluffyPotato@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            12
            ·
            1 year ago

            Does Macron even count as a liberal? He outright said the French revolution was a mistake and a monarchie would have been better. That along with trying to do some police state shit makes it seem he’s just an authoritarian.

            • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              1 year ago

              Does Macron even count as a liberal? He outright said the French revolution was a mistake and a monarchie would have been better. That along with trying to do some police state shit makes it seem he’s just an authoritarian.

              Modern liberals all believe that. Liberals gave up the social and economic justice beliefs of the Enlightenment as soon as they attained power post-revolution, socialists inherited the Enlightenment thought and became the new left opposition pushing for real justice.

              • FluffyPotato@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                1 year ago

                Unfortunately a lot of people who claim to be socialist just follow Stalin’s and Lenin’s ideology of authoritarianism not much better than fascism with a history of executing actual socialists the moment they get into power. Thankfully Eastern Europe, having lived through the horrors of Stalin’s regime, are better at seeing through that bullshit.

                Also while most of liberal policies are just a way to make the rich richer, believing monarchy is the way to go and wanting a police surveillance state does not seem to be a common belief.

                • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  I want you to ask some of the jews that were liberated from death camps whether they think socialism was “not much better than fascism”.

                  You’re calling people like Jeremy Corbyn a monster, who regularly defends the ussr, correctly so. That’s how far off the deep end you people are in terms of understanding of this topic.

                  Thankfully Eastern Europe, having lived through the horrors of Stalin’s regime, are better at seeing through that bullshit.

                  I am originally FROM eastern europe(Czech) and this is just false. You are talking to people born in the 80s and 90s, brought up on an education system designed with a hefty quantity of anticommunism. You are not talking to people that actually lived under socialism at an age where they can remember any of it.

                  We have data to back this up anyway:

                  https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2010/04/28/hungary-better-off-under-communism/

                  A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same. In no other Central or Eastern European country surveyed did so many believe that economic life is worse now than during the communist era. This is the result of almost universal displeasure with the economy. Fully 94% describe the country’s economy as bad, the highest level of economic discontent in the hard hit region of Central and Eastern Europe. Just 46% of Hungarians approve of their country’s switch from a state-controlled economy to a market economy; 42% disapprove of the move away from communism. The public is even more negative toward Hungary’s integration into Europe; 71% say their country has been weakened by the process.

                  http://www.balkanalysis.com/romania/2011/12/27/in-romania-opinion-polls-show-nostalgia-for-communism/

                  The most incredible result was registered in a July 2010 IRES (Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy) poll, according to which 41% of the respondents would have voted for Ceausescu, had he run for the position of president. And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.

                  https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html

                  Glorification of the German Democratic Republic is on the rise two decades after the Berlin Wall fell. Young people and the better off are among those rebuffing criticism of East Germany as an “illegitimate state.” In a new poll, more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR.

                  http://praguemonitor.com/2011/11/21/pol

                  Roughly 28 percent of Czechs say they were better off under the Communist regime, according to a poll conducted by the polling institute SC&C and released Sunday.

                  http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/for-simon-poll-serbians-unsure-who-runs-their-country

                  A poll shows that as many as 81 per cent of Serbians believe they lived best in the former Yugoslavia -”during the time of socialism”.

                  https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Poll-Most-Russians-Prefer-Return-of-Soviet-Union-and-Socialism-20160420-0051.html

                  The majority of Russians polled in a 2016 study said they would prefer living under the old Soviet Union and would like to see the socialist system and the Soviet state restored.

                  https://news.gallup.com/poll/166538/former-soviet-countries-harm-breakup.aspx

                  Reflecting back on the breakup of the Soviet Union that happened 22 years ago next week, residents in seven out of 11 countries that were part of the union are more likely to believe its collapse harmed their countries than benefited them. Only Azerbaijanis, Kazakhstanis, and Turkmens are more likely to see benefit than harm from the breakup. Georgians are divided.

                  You are objectively and measurably wrong. You are repeating repetitive garbage that you have seen moronic far right americans on reddit who have their brains riddled with the legacy of two red-scares repeat over and over again. Which you too repeat as fact despite it being simply not true.

                  But of course you’ll completely ignore all of this absolutely factual information and still repeat garbage again next time because you people don’t care about reality, you invent your own. When information that should make you self-crit and reevaluate your world view is presented to you the reactionary attitude you hold causes you to discard it.

                  • FluffyPotato@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    5
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Me and my whole family is from and currently in Eastern Europe you numbskull. As a bonus my mom’s side of the family is originally from the karelia region where they escaped the soviet occupation once already. I grew up with horror stories from my parents and grandparents about the soviet regime. Also my extended family is about 10% lighter thanks to that regime. And anyone defending that bloody dictator’s regime is a monster, yea.

                    It’s 4 am so I’m not gonna go over the whole wall of surveys with a comb but here’s my thoughts out em: I’m not surprised about the poll for Serbs, they do seem to love their genocide. As far as the 2 polls that says life was better under the USSR I guess their country must have really gone to shit now.

                    Considering the USSR did some considerable ethnic cleansing with their death camps in siberia and replacing the local population with their own and the breakup itself causing a lot of economic issues I can entirely believe that those countries consider the breakup itself to be harmful. Also note that the last poll leaves out 4 countries that definitely would consider the breakup to be good which is very weird. If you wanted a poll that said the breakup of the USSR was harmful you definitely want to leave out the Baltics.

                  • FluffyPotato@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Oh and by originally from do you mean the American originally from where your great great great grandfather was from there but you never been in said country or barely know anything about it? Or do you mean actually from the Czech republic?

      • TechyDad@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        1 year ago

        We’re not really saying “we don’t care.” What we’re saying is: Hunter Biden isn’t on the ballot. There’s no evidence that Joe Biden did anything illegal so this isn’t changing our voting plans. If Hunter did something illegal, he should get an appropriate punishment for it, but this should also apply to Don Jr, Ivanka, and everyone else.

        Instead, Republicans want to “get” Hunter Biden on something - anything - and tie Joe Biden to that by virtue of being Hunter’s father. However, they also don’t want anything Trump’s kids do to be tied to Trump. It’s an obvious double standard employed for political gain without any regard for the truth.

      • suction@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        1 year ago

        It’s not Trump vs. Hunter Biden, but Trump vs. Joe Biden, so this sounds like the typical brainworm-reasoning that you get from right-wingers.

        Donald Trump himself is the one doing the bad stuff, Biden‘s son‘s actions can’t be pinned on his father. Especially so because Hunter is not in in the government, unlike the monsters that are Trump‘s spawn.

      • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 year ago

        oh you’re right in that this serves an overall strategy they call “flooding the zone”, which is where you try to make your actual hideousness seem equivalent to your opponents in order to encourage people to just check out of politics. In 2016 one of Trump’s key campaign strategies was getting Clinton voters to stay home on the idea that “they’re all the same anyway, what does it matter?” But the fact is liberals do care, and they want to see justice done. Hunter Biden has been charged with federal crimes and plead guilty, and there’s no liberal backlash because he did that shit. They tried this with the Epstein plane too. They were like “But Bill Clinton was on the plane too” and most people’s reaction was “he can have the cell next to Trump’s”.

        • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          They don’t need an overall backlash though. They just need some people to do it, even in this thread there’s a bunch of people doing it. This then becomes all the evidence that people in the other tribe need to believe it on the whole as a widespread thing.