• threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s not that simple. Many places on the planet do not have a high enough population density to make subways viable.

      I love trains. I take trains when possible. But your take is overly simplistic.

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        Yet in the early 1900s there was enough population for an extensive network of trolleys… With 2 billion people on the entire planet. Now were headed back to trolleys with extra steps

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      My city has over 2.2M people, spans 530sq-mi (1,372 km2 for metric folk)…… and doesn’t have a subway. You want me to do what now?

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          Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, and Austin all have inadequate public transportation. And together they account for 5 of the 10 biggest cities in the US by population.

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          The person you are replying to said they live in a city of 2.2 million people, and your response is “most people live in the city?” If 2.2 million people isn’t a city, then I don’t know what is. Also, 2.2 million people in 530 sqmi is 4150 people per square mile. And you consider that sparsely populated?

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            I consider that shitty american urban design, which after decades is finally coming to reap what they sow; It just sucks to be the collateral in it all.

            But I mean really you can’t expect that to move a 200lbs person you’d NEED 20x that weight in machine, thats a whole ass 95% error were getting sold

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              Absolutely nobody here is arguing that America has good urban design. We are arguing with the person who said we don’t need cars because we can all take the subway. Most Americans, even huge car enthusiasts, would love to have more public train systems if only to lower traffic so they can drive faster. Half of the country is not willing to pay for it, though.

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          an electric car isn’t going to help much for you either since sparsely populated areas lack charging stations

          Even sparsely populated areas usually have electricity. If your house is connected to the grid, you can charge your car at home and wake up every morning with a “full tank”. DC fast charging stations are really only needed for long road trips.

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            I’m not NoCars than anything but I gotta agree thats definitely the dumbest reason people hate on EVs, like imagine being so used to the idea of gas stations you can’t even imagine a world without

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        I mean america is rotten to the core. If you want a real solution its not gonna be cheap or easy, thats just what we get for years focused on funneling money to the shareholders instead of actual innovation.

        Turns out theres countries out there that are happy to cut out this inefficiency, and so given a long enough timeframe almost have to pull ahead

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            I mean me ripping ass is contributing to co2 emissions but it doesnt make coal plants ok cause I fart.

            Bikes have an extremely reduced tire surface area compared to cars as well as much lower velocities; those variables alone causing exponentially less microplastics released.

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              And walking causes even less release of microplastics. So if you choose to bike instead of walk, you are responsible for unnecessary microplastics release.

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                Isnt this like the exact opposite of what I was saying?

                Thought I made it pretty clear but I’ll make it even clearer: a human farting does not excuse emissions from coal plants, although they both contribute to greenhouse gasses

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                  It’s not the opposite. As you said, they both contribute to the problem. But nobody actively encourages farting.

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                    Shit to align the metaphor more of farting could replace coal plants, I dont think we’d have people arguing against it though no?