So much for the “pay or okay” model that the Facebook and Instagram parent recently introduced in the EU.
    • kautau@lemmy.worldEnglish
      62·
      8 months ago

      Prior to joining Meta, she was a partner working on technology issues and co-chair of Covington & Burling’s global data practice. Erin collaborates with policymakers and experts on Meta’s products and features and is deeply involved in legislative and regulatory efforts around data protection, data portability, advertising, and Al.

      E.g. ex lawyer working for a firm that ensured companies could sell and use as much data as possible and defended them if they got sued or fined. Now in charge of “Privacy,” e.g. making sure Meta can sell and use as much private data as possible. It’s literal doublespeak

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            4·
            8 months ago

            IDK, there are lots of other jobs than at Facebook. They pay really well though.

            I have a personal rule to never work at a company I morally disagree with, and it has worked well so far. I don’t like any of the companies I’ve worked for, but they solve real problems and don’t abuse users too much.

            • melpomenesclevage@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              8 months ago

              okay but is it really surviving if you can’t afford a yacht though? you should be able to purge a few ethnic minorities for a yacht, right? at least if you dont really mean it, about the killing?

          • melpomenesclevage@lemm.eeEnglish
            3·
            8 months ago

            and if you do something horrible, you still deserve to swing, because morality (the smart kind at least) doesn’t come from magical Fucking fairy dust, it is survival.

            Facebook has caused genocides. a comparison to an as camp guard who’s drunk to within an ounce of blackout for every shift isnt so uunreasonable, and he still deserves to swing, unless he’s helping people escape.

    • Isoprenoid@programming.devEnglish
      12·
      8 months ago

      I wonder if people working there realize that, or they have simply fell for the gaslighting.

      Or they’re just like everyone else and are desperate for money to live so they sell their souls.

      • Natanael@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        Yeah that’s often the problem. They hire people who care and are good at the stuff so they can point to them and say “we really do care as a company” and then they aren’t given the leverage they need inside the company to implement real changes

    • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      1·
      8 months ago

      Sounds to me that Meta defines privacy in a very particular way. You’re still going to give all of your data to Meta, but anything outside this transaction is in the realm of privacy where you can have rights and settings.

  • Cossty@lemmy.worldEnglish
    105·
    8 months ago

    Please pull out of EU, it will be so much easier to convince more of my family to use signal.

    • jqubed@lemmy.worldEnglish
      128·
      8 months ago

      Meta seemed to think that was a threat that would get the EU to cave to their demands and the regulators’ response was basically

      Willy Wonka sarcastically saying, “Stop. Don’t. Come back.”

      • 737English
        2·
        8 months ago

        To be fair, tech companies can do whatever they want in the EU, No party would ever want to be responsible for WhatsApp, Windows, or ChatGPT not being available anymore.

        • gian @lemmy.grys.itEnglish
          1·
          8 months ago

          Until the EU don’t use the same tactic: follow the law or get out.

          And what Meta is not understanding is that if the EU will arrive at this point, the “follow the law” will be as pedantic as it can be. And maybe even a little more.

          Meta should learn from what happened during the Brexit’s negotiations.

          • themeatbridge@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            8 months ago

            I hope you’re right, but the EU hasn’t had many overwhelming successes when it comes to pushing that particular boulder up the hill.

            • gian @lemmy.grys.itEnglish
              1·
              8 months ago

              Well, the micro-USB and USB-C or the GDPR examples are here. Maybe is a little more difficult with services since it is way faster to change a service then a law.

  • Gsus4@mander.xyzEnglish
    60·
    8 months ago

    Say one decides to pay…what guarantees do I get that my data won’t be used or that I won’t get targeted?

      • sramder@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        You guys might have a point… I was thinking they would impose some kind of draconian verification as the next impediment to compliance.

        Also kinda thinking about those weird “travel agencies” that let you rent a return flight so you can get your visa approved.

        But if it really is anyone on EU soil they truly may be out of options.

  • azalty@jlai.luEnglish
    25·
    8 months ago

    Good news, that’s one point where the EU takes good decisions. Sadly, fight against privacy in terms of anti money laundering rules and similar

  • Mikina@programming.devEnglish
    24·
    8 months ago

    Max Schrems, the Austrian activist lawyer whose 13-year legal crusade against Meta is what gradually removed those options

    I wonder, does anyone know how would one go about acomplishing something like this? One of major websites here in Czech, and a major search engine, has started doing exactly the same thing - pay or agree. And I really don’t like that. Are there organizations you can contact, or do you have to have the resources to just sue them?