On the front line in east and south Ukraine, the situation is increasingly desperate, with Russia outfiring Ukraine at a rate of three to one
  • Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
    148·
    7 months ago

    Almost like the west isnt funding them the way they are supposed to. To anyone in the US, this is why you need a democratic majority in the house. Russia has already called Ukraine a stepping stone multiple times, but US news is a awash with nothing but news on Gaza and israel despite the US policy on israel being unfortunately decided for 70 years now. So instead of pressuring our govt to act on Ukraine, we have protestors wasting their effort on the wrong genocide, one which the US was never going to stop, and is much smaller in scale. Its a dismal way of looking at things, but it is not incorrect.

    • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
      38·
      7 months ago

      But haven’t you heard? The US has already committed LITERAL BILLIONS to Ukraine, and what did it get us? Nothing! Just imagine if that money would’ve been spent here! We could have spent it on schools Some poor CEO could’ve had fat bonuses! Maybe we could’ve cancelled the medical debt of 100 people We could’ve spent more on covering up environmental damage without doing anything against the companies that caused that damage.

      I tell you, if we wouldn’t have spent that money on Ukraine, we could’ve medicare for all, student loan forgiveness, functioning infrastructure and a sane republican party. But because we spent those billions on Ukraine, sadly, we had to budget a little and got none of the above. If only we still had that money, all of our woes would be over!

      • Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
        55·
        7 months ago

        sigh

        We didnt spend billions on Ukraine. We donate old arms worth billions that were due to be phased out anyway to Ukraine. Crappy media reporting has really done on number on everyone who believes otherwise. And guess what? That weaponry was doing the trick. As predicted, giving Ukraine an absolute fuckload of our outdated shit is held russia back.

        But sure. Lets let Poland, Finland, and Lithuania fall next -___-

    • hark@lemmy.world
      27·
      7 months ago

      Protesting against genocide is never a waste of effort. Following your logic, Ukraine is a lost cause because Russia is determined to invade it and US congress is too divided to stop it anyway, so no one should care.

      • Eximius@lemmy.world
        13·
        7 months ago

        You’re not following his logic. He puts priority on the bigger genocide. And posits that there are too many Zionists in USA, so it’s much more hopeless to stop Israel support fast, might as well continue with the big fish.

        • hark@lemmy.world
          8·
          7 months ago

          The situation in Palestine is a one-sided slaughter, with a million Palestinians on the verge of starvation. There is no stopping Russia quickly either, unless maybe if you propose direct US military participation, and even then that may not put a swift end to things.

          • Eximius@lemmy.world
            5·
            7 months ago

            Stopping Russia is about just sending ammunition and supplies to Ukraine, they will fight for themselves, but they might run out of bullets at this rate (literally the current state of affairs).

            USA openly and cozily supports Israel with deep rooted Zionism, you cant change this quick it would appear, and is what my two comments and the other guy is saying.

            Gaza strip is 0.5mil, Ukraine is 38mil. Russia doing another Holodomor is entirely real and possible.

    • Dark Arc@social.packetloss.ggEnglish
      6·
      7 months ago

      For those not in the know: Donald Trump did this by trying to extort Ukraine to “find shit on Biden” in exchange for weapons, which is why he was impeached the first time.

      He also just general signaled to Putin he really doesn’t care about honoring US alliances with his demands and general disregard for the importance of NATO.

  • Asafum@feddit.nl
    16·
    7 months ago

    It pisses me off to no end that war is seen as a fucking “game.” This isn’t fucking Pokemon where you “win” and you keep my cards.

    The fact that the entire world just accepts that when you “win” a war you keep the land you took is beyond insanity… The entire world should be united against anyone who does this. There needs to be a collective NO.

    But C.R.E.A.M… so we can’t.

    • crimsonpoodle@pawb.social
      2·
      7 months ago

      Well it eventually becomes difficult in the long term. I doubt the sanctions would be resolved any time soon but at a certain point unless your willing to go to war— which if we weren’t willing to supply probably won’t happen— you should eventually normalize relations once everyone who was involved in the war is dead.