• DdCno1@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    I’ve seen this pop up a few times, so it’s likely (hopefully) something you are just ignorantly repeating, but it has to be said that the entire idea of reframing a well-established term like antisemitism, as helpfully laid out by @Vorticity, is extremely damaging and troubling. Whoever came up with it in very recent years solely did it in order to hurt Jews, in order to downplay the very real issue of exploding global antisemitism (even before the October 7 massacres) and sow confusion.

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      7 months ago

      ‘in recent years’
      This isn’t something that people came up with recently. It’s been the established definition forever. What you’re doing is attempting to conflate the goals of Arabs with the goals of the nazi party.

      Here’s some historical context to chew on:

      "Nazi harassment of Arabs began as early as 1932, where members of the Egyptian Student Association in Graz, Austria reported to the Egyptian consulate in Vienna that some Nazis had assaulted some of its members, throwing beer steins and armchairs at them, injuring them, and that “oddly enough” the police had not arrested the perpetrators, but the Egyptians.[27] The Nazis attackers were later acquitted; one of its officers, penciled the word “Jude" [Jew] after the names of three of the attacked Egyptians. In February 1934, the Egyptian Embassy in Berlin complained to the Reich Ministry of the Interior that a student had been attacked and insulted in a dance hall in Tübingen. The perpetrator had complained that he was not permitted to dance with a “German” because he was “black” and of a “lower race” and had punched him. The attacker was not punished.

      The Moroccan Mohamed Bouayad was killed in a gas chamber in Mauthausen in April 1945.
      While Arabs were a small population in Europe at the time, they were not free from Nazi persecution.[28] Racist incidents against Egyptians were reported as early as the 1930s.[29][30] The Nazis also sterilized hundreds of “half-breeds”, Germans of mixed Arab/North African heritage.[31] On the onset of war, Egyptians living in Germany were interned in response to the internment of Germans in Egypt.[32] Tens of thousands of French colonial soldiers were imprisoned after fighting alongside French forces in the Battle of France.[33]"

      As you can see from the above, Nazis treated Arabs as bad as they treated Jews during that time because they didn’t care about the difference between Arab and Jewish peoples.

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        7 months ago

        This is completely false.

        First of all, antisemitism has always been exclusively about hatred against Jews. It does not mean anything else and never has, regardless of the fact that there are other Semitic people.

        Secondly, there was a systematic campaign of extermination against Jews and the hatred of Jews is a core part of Nazi ideology. There was none against Arabs, despite the fact that other minorities, including some Arabs, were also persecuted and killed when convenient. Nazis were extremely racist against lots of people, but this does not compare to their hatred of Jews.

        Even in your example, the Egyptians were attacked by random Nazis, because they thought they were Jews.