• jeffw@lemmy.worldOP
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    8 months ago

    I don’t think any of those have 80% of their respective markets though. Not defending any of those companies, just saying it isn’t an open and shut case.

    And a lot of stuff with Nestle and Cargill in environmental, so it happens outside of the USA afaik

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      8 months ago

      Yet every single one of those affects every American. Quite possibly everyone across the globe. LN only really affects you if you’re in that industry or go to a concert/events.

      Nestle is fucking evil. There’s no other way to put it. They hold so many brands, that they don’t need 80% market share. I doubt very much that any American that wants to seriously boycott them even has a choice.

      Same goes with Cargill or Monsanto. Cargill is responsible for a lot of the ag waste generated, being one of the largest producers of beef, and eggs as well as poultry, pork. From producing feed to farms that raise the animals.

      Monsanto can literally force farmers to use their seed if any farmer even remotely close also uses their seed. (Ostensibly because gmo seeds are patented and cross pollination violates IP rights).

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        LN only really affects you if you’re in that industry or go to a concert/events

        Yeah, they only affect the business of and most people’s favorite way to enjoy one of the main types of human creative endeavor, no biggie!

        Nestle is fucking evil. There’s no other way to put it. They hold so many brands, that they don’t need 80% market share. I doubt very much that any American that wants to seriously boycott them even has a choice.

        Absolutely true but also completely beside the point.

        Same goes with Cargill or Monsanto. Cargill is responsible for a lot of the ag waste generated, being one of the largest producers of beef, and eggs as well as poultry, pork. From producing feed to farms that raise the animals.

        Again, yes, but that ALSO doesn’t make Ticketmaster/Live Nation any better

        Monsanto can literally force farmers to use their seed if any farmer even remotely close also uses their seed. (Ostensibly because gmo seeds are patented and cross pollination violates IP rights).

        Again true, except Monsanto got bought by Bayer a few years ago. I’ve been unable to find out how much of their evil fuckery they’re still doing under the new name (which is probably because of a deliberate cover job by Bayer), but my guess would be “most, if not all of it”

        That STILL doesn’t mean that an effective monopoly should ever be allowed to charge the equivalent of a car for a single concert ticket.

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          8 months ago

          Missing the point. Again.

          Run the cost. Benefit analysis. Each of those mega corps affect every American every day. And not in any positive way.

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              8 months ago

              Oh?

              So you’re saying that breaking one of those companies would help fewer people than live nation?

              You’re saying that tens of millions of people living with food and housing insecurity is less of a problem than people not being able to afford concert and other tickets?

              Explain it to me because you seem to have weird priorities.

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                So you’re saying that breaking one of those companies would help fewer people than live nation?

                Nope.

                You’re saying that tens of millions of people living with food and housing insecurity is less of a problem than people not being able to afford concert and other tickets?

                Nope

                Explain it to me because you seem to have weird priorities.

                I’m saying that there’s no need to prioritize in the way that you’re suggesting. It’s not a zero sum game where going after TM/LN means you can’t do anything about even worse companies.