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      Hold up. Bigfoots were American long before the white man came. They deserve their vote, especially in the swing states. They tend to vote Democrat.

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      Yeah, in fact I’m really concerned about this, I think they should cover all of the fictional creatures, maybe also martians, better cover animals, too. Every species, list them out. I think Trump should personally oversee this, and fund the research. Just take it out of his campaign fund.

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      Come on, man

      Everyone knows Sprites, pixies, and brownies are the root cause of voter fraud. Unless they stop those beings, it’s going to do nothing

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    Oh, so they want to make it…like, double-illegal or something? Can we also pass extra laws to prevent murder–but, you know, more?

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      At best they’ll make it a fixture of the election that Democrats don’t support legal elections. At worst universal voter ID, no more mail-in voting, and hassling the fuck out of anyone that doesn’t “look American” or have an anglicized name.

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    What a great idea. Solve a problem that doesn’t exist rather than all the shit crumbling around us. Heroes.

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      Also, given that’s a non-problem, they will, in fact, never solve it. Which is exactly what they want. A “problem” they can endlessly demagogue whip up grievances about.

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    Democrats should agree with this, and amend the bill to indicate that all citizens should have the right to vote (ideally with it being a felony to try to prevent them from doing so). Let Trump and Johnson explain why they don’t want that part of it.

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      Love this idea, great way to sneak in Voting Rights Act that was pretty much DOA on week 1.

      Anything that puts them on the backfoot and exposes the awful Republican policies in the light of day will work extremely well!

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      Great idea. Maybe also add extra provisions that would give extreme punishment to those cons that were caught trying to vote more than once, as well. Call out those specific examples when it’s being debated.

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    Anyone with a brain knows non-citizens can’t vote. This is just a way to push the narrative to their dumb base that “illegals” are voting.

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      If that’s real, I wonder if they are some of the same people that thought the 80s Satanic Panic stuff was real and so was the Comet Pizza stuff…and that The Storm is still coming, LOL.

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    Non-american here so wondering, can literally anyone in the US walk into a voting booth and cast a vote? If so… Why would you allow that? And why would you not want to prevent it?

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        And apparently since 2001, there have been fewer than 100 cases (I think somewhere in the area of 50-60 cases) where a non-citizen attempted to vote.

        Less than 100 cases. In over 20 years.

        It’s an obvious, bald-faced smokescreen, covering their plans to rig the election or commit a coup should they lose.

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      Citizens only for Federal and State elections. Some local elections allow non-citizens. Very few. Not something that needs Federal legislation.

      As others pointed out, it’s political theater because that’s all they have.

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      Only citizens can vote. This is just a public relations stunt to promote Trump’s fake narrative about voter fraud

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      I don’t have to present any ID in order to vote. Since I am already on the voting rolls, all I do is show up at the poll, tell them who I am, and they find my name in the (now electronic) book. I sign it and then I can go vote.

      Now, when I initially registered, I had to prove I was eligible. Most voter registration is done here in conjunction with getting your driver’s license (or other non-driver state ID). Since you have to produce your birth certificate and/or naturalization papers, they can check your eligibility right there.

      A lot of the misinformation from the Right stems from how closely the DMV is tied into voter registration. Non-citizens can drive, of course, and some states even give licenses to people here illegally. Republicans assume all these people get signed up to vote, also, but they do not. Only people who can prove their eligibility get registered.

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      Trump is trying to play off that the election process is flawed, so that he can claim victory no matter how badly he loses.

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      There are voter rolls that each state maintains of eligible voters. These rolls have to conform to minimum guidelines, like allowing all US citizens without felonies 18 years or older to vote. However, the federal government doesn’t have any never had any maximum guidelines.

      If a state decided that all 16 year old citizens could vote, the Federal Government couldn’t do anything. Same with how different states address allowing felons who have served their time the ability to vote. In theory, this could include allowing non-citizens the opportunity as well.

      This was built into the Constitution as an option. All elections, including for President, have some mechanism in place so that it doesn’t matter if a state has a lesser or greater percentage of its residents vote over other states. After all, the Constitution was written in mind where several states would have significant slave populations.

      It is unknown if a federal maximum guideline would be constitutional, since it really messes with the division of powers between the states and the federal government.

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      Voting in person in the US usually involves a checkin process where an election worker looks up your name and address to 1. Confirm you are registered to vote, 2. Confirm you are in the correct location to vote, and 3. Confirm that you haven’t already voted.

      After voting you follow a similar process to check out, so they have a record that you checked in, voted, and checked out.

      Point 2 is because in larger towns & cities there are often multiple voting locations, and voting locations are based on where in the town you live. For example in my city I vote at a church two blocks away from my home. If I tried to vote at a different location in my city they wouldn’t allow it, and would tell me to go to that church. (I think I could cast a provisional ballot at an alternate location if I provided sufficient ID, but that vote would only be counted after the election ended and records showed I didn’t vote at my usual location.)

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      It’s already illegal, they’re just trying to make it like, double illegal??? Basically just fanning their base’s flames over a fake issue.

      Like yes you do need to be a citizen and register to vote, nit just walk in.

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    Next up on their agenda: legislating that water stays wet and that gravity doesn’t start repulsing objects

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    Wait, wait — let me guess. They’ll say it affects non-citizens, but it will actually create tedious barriers to voting that affect mostly the American urban working class.