• Fisk400@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It is a guillotine with a reddit head in it and the name spez written on it. Just depicting a guillotine is not a death threats but depicting a person in it that exist in the real world is absolutely a death threats against that person. If that is not a death threat there is no such thing as a death threats on the internet and moderation is dead.

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      A death threat is something like saying “I’m gonna murder spez”. It expresses an intention. An illustration suggesting that someone could be killed does not express any intention to actually kill someone. Furthermore the image could be interpreted in other ways, like saying the user account “spez” should be eliminated, or that that spez is the kind of person who would have been killed had he been around in the French revolutionary period. No reasonable person could believe the people posting those pixels are actually making plans to cut off Steve Huffman’s head with a guillotine.

      I’m much more concerned about rhetoric that, for example, equates LGBT+ people with groomers, because that shit demonstrably does get people killed, and I’ve been told numerous times that rhetoric like that doesn’t violate any rules. If moderation is dead, that’s what killed it.

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        An illustration suggesting that someone could be killed does not express any intention to actually kill someone.

        Wow. Brain just turns to literal soup as soon as the hate is directed towards someone you don’t like.

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        No reasonable person could believe the people posting those pixels are actually making plans to cut off Steve Huffman’s head with a guillotine.

        I agree, but the world is provably full of many unreasonable people.

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          Well, fuck em, and fuck spez. People can be unreasonable as they see fit, but I still maintain: Off with his 'ead! Metaphorically, of course

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        If this was done against you or someone you liked, you would not make those arguments. If they replaced spez with a rainbow flag you would immediately identify it as a hate crime and a call to violence, because it fucking is. You can argue that spez isnt harmed by these kinds death threats and should just allow them on r/place but at least be honest with your fucking opinions.