Just what we all wanted, even more ads to deal with in our everyday life
  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
    82·
    7 months ago

    the time in which the TV is on but users aren’t doing anything is valuable

    Ads are making everything worse. Yes and ads are disturbing the doing nothing. Doing nothing is very valuable to me. It’s the time when I have some time for myself.

    • Destide@feddit.ukEnglish
      30·
      7 months ago

      the time in which the TV is on but users aren’t doing anything is valuable

      Are they going to pay for the increased power to do so?

  • Domiku@beehaw.orgEnglish
    36·
    7 months ago

    There was a really interesting interview on The Verge with the CEO of Telly. Basically, TVs are so cheap now because they make all of their profit selling your data. His pitch is “why pay for a TV and then also have your data mined. They should at least give you the TV for free.”

    It’s frustrating because even if we buy a “premium” devices like an LG C3 or one of the nice Samsung TVs, they’re still going to spy on us. (PiHole FTW).

    • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
      13·
      7 months ago

      He’s right, but I don’t like the framing of TV companies are going to spy on you anyway so we’re the best option since you get a free TV. I would like the option to not be spied on. In fact I’m choosing that by not having a TV to begin with.

      • Kiosade@lemmy.ca
        7·
        7 months ago

        That’s one of the reasons i’ve stayed with a TV from 2009 for so long. It was just before they started doing all that Internet TV bullshit, so no spying possible.

      • Vodulas [they/them]@beehaw.org
        4·
        7 months ago

        You can still do that and get a TV (for now), you just have to not connect it to the internet. Mine has never seen Ethernet cable nor my wifi password and gives me zero problems. I don’t even use the TV interface since I have an HDMI switcher that auto switches to the most recently powered device.

    • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
      5·
      7 months ago

      isnt that why if you value privacy (or customization) youre supposed to not plug the tv to the internet and use your prefered streaming setup connected over hdmi. its ultimately a self inflicted problem of people using the built in stuff rather than take the time and setup an actual setup (that would stay the same between tvs as long as said device doesnt die on you)

      then convenience is sold, especially if its free, then your data is going to be sold with it.

      • Domiku@beehaw.orgEnglish
        5·
        7 months ago

        That only works if you’re using something Linux + Jellyfin, though. Any set top box like a Fire Stick or Chromecast will sell your data too.

        • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
          2·
          7 months ago

          which is why ones better off with a modified Nvidia Shield or Apple TV to minimize data collection, if you arent using an HTPC for a streaming server. Not a binary system, its a game of whose doing it the least, and the TV companies have a huge incentive to collect money off the integrated stuff vs companies whose cost is moreso on the hardware, and make money off their intended subscription services (Apple One for Apple TV, Nvidia Geforce Now for gaming on the Shield)

    • ConstableJelly@midwest.socialOP
      31·
      7 months ago

      Home entertainment is such a closed system that all these companies are just beta testing shitty ideas for each other. Eventually they all do the same thing as long as any backlash was neither too destructive to revenue nor sustained. See endless streaming services price hikes, account sharing lockdowns, or the fact that you just can’t buy dumb TVs anymore.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.netEnglish
      4·
      7 months ago

      Should be able to with Roku since they are also Android based. I’ve found a bunch of things to side load or modify any TV running on Android or based on Android… Which only sucks because I was looking for that kind of stuff for my shit-ass Samsung TV which isn’t Android based 😩

          • Nate@programming.devEnglish
            3·
            7 months ago

            As far as I’m aware they can only be used on Android. I did a search for APK on Roku and I all found were some articles erroneously calling custom channels APKs. Roku does let you side load custom channels in developer mode, but you can remove software like you can on an android box, so you’re always stuck with Roku’s ad riddled home page and whatever injects ads into HDMI

  • esaru@beehaw.org
    10·
    7 months ago

    Time to find interests that don’t depend on a company taking advantage of my consumption habits.

  • voxel@sopuli.xyz
    6·
    7 months ago

    note: this is just a patent
    patents usually don’t mean shit, sony (?iirc) has a patent for an ad system that requires users to say the name of the brand to continue, but we’re not seeing it around yet eh?

  • ramble81@lemm.ee
    5·
    7 months ago

    The biggest thing I hate about any HDMI overlay is they inevitably screw with the picture quality of the underlying image.

    • lud@lemm.ee
      1·
      7 months ago

      Could it not be turned off when it’s not needed (I.E. The game is unpaused.)

      And what specifically do you mean by overlay?

      Monitors and TVs have been able to overlay some interface elements over the HDMI input since forever. I have never heard of an overlay degrading quality but maybe there are some poor implementations.