Most Americans, no matter their political affiliation, do not believe that violence is a solution to domestic political divisions, according to the latest PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist poll.
I’m looking at what the polling question actually is. Liberals, kinda by definition, don’t want the country to “get back on track” or return to a period of former greatness.
How about Watergate? There have always been scandals.
Or on another note, how about when presidential blowies were a scandal, gay people couldn’t even get married? The appeal to an idealized past is a conservative thing.
The liberals I know think it’s pretty off track. Specifically, it fell off the rails when Trump got elected.
The track switch probably was thrown back in the 2000 election. We all hoped President Obama was gonna get us back on track.
MAGA wants to revert the us to some racist 1950s version. Violence is basically required to achieve that vision.
Liberals want to put the US back on track to equality, human rights and a secure future (see SCOTUS, for example of how off track the US is). We just don’t think violence is a good way to do take.
I guess I wasn’t thinking about it that way, that “on track” could be that Democrats are imagining there was a time when liberal ideals were being actively worked towards. I don’t think that’s really true, but I now see that someone could think that way.
I would have said yes to “is violence necessary” because in some situations it is, but I would have not even been able to answer the question as asked, or I would have said no, because I don’t agree with what they are saying violence is necessary for. The context is important, and flavored how people answered the question.
My comment was for people who understand that polling can be biased based on how you word the question.
“Do you think violence is necessary” is how the poll is being reported on, but that is not what was asked.
I’m genuinely unsure of what you mean by “against” here-- are you implying the original phrasing biased Republican answers towards or against violence, and do you consider that to be a good or bad thing?
To answer your question though, I believe phrases that could influence Democrats to vote yes could be “Do you think violence is necessary to combat hatred” or as was suggested earlier “Do you think violence is necessary for hope and change”. Basically anything that ties violence to their desired values or outcomes.
I’m genuinely unsure of what you mean by “against” here-- are you implying the original phrasing biased Republican answers towards or against violence, and do you consider that to be a good or bad thing?
Maybe read back up the chain if you’re this lost.
or as was suggested earlier “Do you think violence is necessary for hope and change”. Basically anything that ties violence to their desired values or outcomes.
To be fair, the question was “do you think violence is necessary for the US to get back on track”
Make America Great Again is the Republican line, so of course the poll is going to lean this way.
Congrats. That’s probably the dumbest attempt to grasp at straws I’ve seen all day.
I’m looking at what the polling question actually is. Liberals, kinda by definition, don’t want the country to “get back on track” or return to a period of former greatness.
I would agree we’re pretty far off the track. Remember when the biggest scandals were presidential blowies and tan suits?
How about Watergate? There have always been scandals.
Or on another note, how about when presidential blowies were a scandal, gay people couldn’t even get married? The appeal to an idealized past is a conservative thing.
I’m not saying turn back the clock, I just want politics to stop being so… I mean marjorie taylor greene exists, for fucks sake.
Also let’s be real, Watergate is tame in 2024. Hell, PRISM wasn’t even as big as Watergate and it was 100x worse.
The liberals I know think it’s pretty off track. Specifically, it fell off the rails when Trump got elected.
The track switch probably was thrown back in the 2000 election. We all hoped President Obama was gonna get us back on track.
MAGA wants to revert the us to some racist 1950s version. Violence is basically required to achieve that vision.
Liberals want to put the US back on track to equality, human rights and a secure future (see SCOTUS, for example of how off track the US is). We just don’t think violence is a good way to do take.
I guess I wasn’t thinking about it that way, that “on track” could be that Democrats are imagining there was a time when liberal ideals were being actively worked towards. I don’t think that’s really true, but I now see that someone could think that way.
So, are you a foreign operative, fascist or tankie?
There’s no way educated native English speakers could be as far off in either reading comprehension, or understanding of US politics, as you are.
Half these comments read like the Reddit PsyOps campaigns of 2016, and the vote counts indicate the same.
lmao you’re the one who doesn’t understand how language is used to manipulate polling and headlines
Sorry, that jab wasn’t necessary. I think your comment was kind of a dick thing to say but I could’ve said it in a more constructive way.
Just read your own comments, I’m sure you’ll surpass it in no time.
So if the questions had been “do you think violence is necessary for hope and change” more dems would have said ‘yes’?
lol
Pretty clear the operative phrase was do you think violence is necessary.
I would have said yes to “is violence necessary” because in some situations it is, but I would have not even been able to answer the question as asked, or I would have said no, because I don’t agree with what they are saying violence is necessary for. The context is important, and flavored how people answered the question.
My comment was for people who understand that polling can be biased based on how you word the question.
“Do you think violence is necessary” is how the poll is being reported on, but that is not what was asked.
You think this phrasing was biased against republicans. I offered an equivalent phrasing that would be similarly biased against dems.
Do you think more dems would have responded positively to political violence if it was just phrased a little differently?
Who knows! Maybe?
lol- I think you know.
Lol, why even make a poll? next time we have a question we can ask you
They did make a poll and it turns out Republicans are more into political violence- whoda thunkit?
But by all means tell me how the responses were biased by the phrase ‘back on track’ ;)
Hm ackschually, republicans are not necessarily into political violence per sé, they are really into bootlicking the rich at all costs
Cool!
What’s another phrasing that you think would be equivalently biased against dems?
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Unironically yeah it changes the answers a LOT. There are entire sections of sociology dealing with much smaller polling biases.
What’s another phrasing that you think would be equivalently biased against dems?
I’m genuinely unsure of what you mean by “against” here-- are you implying the original phrasing biased Republican answers towards or against violence, and do you consider that to be a good or bad thing?
To answer your question though, I believe phrases that could influence Democrats to vote yes could be “Do you think violence is necessary to combat hatred” or as was suggested earlier “Do you think violence is necessary for hope and change”. Basically anything that ties violence to their desired values or outcomes.
Maybe read back up the chain if you’re this lost.
I’d love to see that poll ;)
Fuck off
If I make one I’ll send it in this community and you’ll get to see me proven right. Unfortunately you’ll be blocked so I won’t see your response.
lol- sorry you got triggered.
It’s built into the slogan. “The grass is always greener” doesn’t have the same ring to it.