• Wogi@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Robust laws also prevent the need for UBI in the first place. If we can’t figure out how to run a society without it, slapping UBI on top of that isn’t actually going to fix anything.

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      8 months ago

      You’re making no sense. How is giving everyone the financial help to keep them clothed, housed, fed, etc. without needing to work for it not going to fix anything as long as you prevent price gouging?

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        8 months ago

        Ok, let me recontextualize here. “if we can terraform mars, why wouldn’t we migrate because of climate change on earth?” In that scenario, why wouldn’t we fix our climate?

        If we have the power to regulate pricing, why would we need UBI?

        It’s socialism with extra steps. You can just do regular socialism, you don’t need to enshitify socialism with capitalism. You really don’t.

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          8 months ago

          If we have the power to regulate pricing, why would we need UBI?

          Because no matter how low priced something is, someone who has no job still can’t afford it.

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            8 months ago

            So, provide the necessary things. Provide housing, medical care, and clothing to anyone that wants it, doing so will probably be necessary for price controls anyway. I’m not saying those things should be unobtainable. I’m saying UBI is a dumb way to go about providing them.

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              8 months ago

              So all food should be free? Or should poor people only be allowed to have certain foods for free but rich people can have anything they want to eat?

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                8 months ago

                I think basic needs should be met, and if you want something better than that you’d need to pay for it.

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                    8 months ago

                    Anything that is outside of basic needs? I thought that was fairly obvious. You need a certain number of calories each day, and those should come with decent nutrients. Outside of that there’s literally no reason to say because we can’t even get that right yet.

                    Fix the actual problems, don’t just slap a stupid band-aid over the problem and pat yourself on the back.

                    Buddy you’re waisting a lot of energy debating someone who already mostly agrees with you.