You need to stop assuming things about me, my dude. Everyone should be paid a living wage. Beyond that, getting a promotion should mean a wage adjustment for a change in work scope and increased work demand. Having done both mental and physical labor, they are both exhausting in their own ways. Now if you want to debate “fair wage increase” as I mentioned earlier in the thread, that’s one of the points of having a union.
…. Ok, so this whole time you didn’t actually pay attention to my initial comment, you just made up a guy and then got mad at him?
Again, my initial comment: “just getting a promotion doesn’t necessarily mean a pay increase! Sometimes a promotion can lead to work that’s essentially easier and in this case managers and laborers should be paid the same, or maybe managers less sometimes!”
You: what the fuck. What the absolute fuck. Don’t you get workers rights at all?? Managers should always make more!!!
Just a really… bizarre knee jerk reaction from you. I think you have good intentions, but you were so eager to “call someone out” that you essentially went against your own morals
Again, my point is that all promotions should come with a wage adjustment. Believe it or not, but promotions aren’t always into management. Even if they were, a good manager knows what it takes to do the job and is therefore worth getting paid more to utilize that experience in a management role.
I simply don’t think “climbing rigid corporate structures for more money” is compatible with a worker focused economy. It’s fine for a deeply capitalist outlook on things
If we’re talking about work being structured in a cooperative fashion, then yes I’d agree. But until we as workers own the means of production, we need to fight for fair compensation in all jobs. This includes fighting for raises when you’re promoted.
You need to stop assuming things about me, my dude. Everyone should be paid a living wage. Beyond that, getting a promotion should mean a wage adjustment for a change in work scope and increased work demand. Having done both mental and physical labor, they are both exhausting in their own ways. Now if you want to debate “fair wage increase” as I mentioned earlier in the thread, that’s one of the points of having a union.
…. Ok, so this whole time you didn’t actually pay attention to my initial comment, you just made up a guy and then got mad at him?
Again, my initial comment: “just getting a promotion doesn’t necessarily mean a pay increase! Sometimes a promotion can lead to work that’s essentially easier and in this case managers and laborers should be paid the same, or maybe managers less sometimes!”
You: what the fuck. What the absolute fuck. Don’t you get workers rights at all?? Managers should always make more!!!
Just a really… bizarre knee jerk reaction from you. I think you have good intentions, but you were so eager to “call someone out” that you essentially went against your own morals
Again, my point is that all promotions should come with a wage adjustment. Believe it or not, but promotions aren’t always into management. Even if they were, a good manager knows what it takes to do the job and is therefore worth getting paid more to utilize that experience in a management role.
I simply don’t think “climbing rigid corporate structures for more money” is compatible with a worker focused economy. It’s fine for a deeply capitalist outlook on things
If we’re talking about work being structured in a cooperative fashion, then yes I’d agree. But until we as workers own the means of production, we need to fight for fair compensation in all jobs. This includes fighting for raises when you’re promoted.
What if you were being compensated well before you were promoted?