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    The comments by US House representative Tim Walberg of Michigan drew condemnation from progressive political quarters, including from some who expressed disbelief that a former Christian pastor would advocate for what they called the genocide of Palestinians in Gaza.

    WWJD: Love thy brother. Nuke thy neighbor.

    Christians are fucked in the head.

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    God sometimes when I read stuff like this as a post I reflexively down vote because I hate it so much until I remember it’s just a post calling attention to someone being a piece of shit and not agreeing with them. I up voted again to fix it lol

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    It just occurred to me that there are probably people who look at those bombings - after the war was effectively over BTW - not as evil (my view), nor as a regrettable but necessary way to avert American deaths, but as an actual heroic act.

    Jesus, how do I live in a world where there are people like that running around having normal lives…?

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      If you were in the other thread about these bombings yesterday, you’d see that viewpoint is basically what the US teaches in school. It’s disturbing to see that so many people actually believe this was for the good of humanity.

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      That continues to be my parents’ view (I suspect the same is true for many of our parents). It’ll be a few generations before the fiction around Hiroshima gets wiped away. Hell, the '21 Tulsa massacre is only now getting some actual cultural awareness, and that’s only because it was depicted in the first scene of The Watchmen.

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      The argument doesn’t just include American deaths, but Japanese deaths as well. You may not agree, but the us just finished in Europe far past the point where the war was effectively over, and there was the belief that the Japanese would always take it further than the germans. Part of it was the japanese war strategy. They wanted the enemy to think they would have to cut through them to the last man woman and child, to get them to give up. There was a belief that maybe a shock would do something, but there was also doubt to that. 7 more bombs were going to be ready to soften up japanese defenses during downfall. They thought they would have to do much more damage.

      Edit: I messed up my words in a way that subtlety changed the meaning of a sentence.

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      The Palestinian people are very much in danger of being final solutioned, under our sitting president.

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      lmao the people calling him genocide joe are not republicans, if the original post somehow didn’t make that very clear to you already

      what a reddit-brained reply

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        Oh yeah we’d nevvvveer have a bunch of the “I used to be Democrat voter until event _____, now I’m all in Republican” people show up with their new attempted catchline. Noooo, would nevvvver happen. Not online.

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          you haven’t encountered very many actual leftists, have you?

          edit: you’re a lot closer to being one of those republicans you hate so much than any leftist who wants to hold both of your war-mongering parties accountable for their role in a genocide btw

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            Those are the choices though. Either at worse the status quo or the people who want it harder faster and to potentially bring it home. I would like to change joe biden’s mind, and take away funding for Israel’s death machine, so I’ll reach out to my reps, but I won’t sit out. Sitting out implies that the magnitude of this issue is unimportant. Only the issue itself.

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              Those are only the choices if I assume moderates and liberals would rather lose to MAGA than make material compromises with leftists and progressives. I’ll be voting 3rd party in the hopes that they will realize they can’t win elections on their own and be more open to working together in the future.

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      A lot of citizens also say that. Why do Americans think their election is an Angel vs satan. It’s just bad vs worse.

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      I don’t think anyone who says “genocide joe” agrees with what Joe is doing quietly nor what Tim Walberg is saying out loud.

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    Doesn’t the congressman know that you aren’t supposed to say the plan outloud? You are just supposed to provide all the bombs and arms required no strings attached. These new republicans just don’t understand decorum.

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      It’s not like anyone in the Israeli government was hiding the fact that their plan was genocide either. It’s only the state department and mainstream media that are pretending to be shocked that there’s ‘collateral damage’.

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    He voted nay to “Providing for the expulsion of Representative George Santos from the United States House of Representatives.” Another old fart that graduated bible college

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      It was before, under the League of nations. Jewish terrorists under Irgun and Stern group (which later formed IDF) bombed the international administration to get land and get them out. When England gave up, Israel took the land