Cars should have buttons and knobs. Not complicated menus and touchscreens. That’s not a “I don’t like change” thing, it’s a safety thing.
Hell yes I should own it if I pay for it.
Event tickets shouldn’t cost a month’s pay or more, fuck middleman businesses that do nothing except price gouge you as a “service.”
Exactly, I’ve railed on this exact topic.
a screen offers no tactile feedback.
You can learn what buttons feel like, and where they are (and the same for knobs) so yo ucan operate your vehicle without having to take your eyes off the road.
Tablets are sleek and shiny, and fundamentally horrible as a car interface.
I don’t necessarily have an issue with the screens. The problems are:
Commonly accessed features like choosing a media source, setting environmental controls, or even lighting, are buried several “clicks” deep. These need to be surface-level and need zero distraction from driving to interact with.
The “touch” part of touch-screen often sucks. Every car I’ve driven with touch interface requires too long of a press and/or doesn’t pick up the press. So you have to look away from driving to repeatedly mash a touch control. That’s not safe.
The touch area is often too small, such as arrow buttons to raise or lower volume, skip a song, or change temperature. Not only do they not register the touch, they’re too small. Double whammy for distraction.
and theres no tactile feed back. you have no idea where your finger is on the screen, So you have to take your eyes off the road to futz with a stupid menu in a stupid interface.
a button/knob? You can just reach, feel, and operate without ever taking your eyes or attention off the road.
This is why, at the ripe old age of mid-thirties, I just drive with one finger on the scan radio button and stop when I hear a song I like. About a year ago we purchased our first car with a touch screen and I will not adapt.
And they should bring back knobs and tactile functions for all white goods for people with disabilities or at least prepare and provide the model for exactly that. Touch screen was a terrible idea for washers, driers and dishwashers. This isn’t just an old person thought, it’s an inclusive thought.
Shitty user interfaces for the sake of looking “modern” can genuinely jack themselves off with the entire monkey paw
I freaking hate this software trend. Years of good engineering design practices have been thrown away for almost no reason.
On purpose! You having agency is your masters losing it.
I’m fairly certain I saw the EU already put something into action about trying to turn this tide. It needs to be expanded for sure
Knobs are highly underrated for control interfaces. Gives users a fine degree of control to dial in as quickly or as slowly as they’re comfortable. They’re an old concept, but they can still benefit from contemporary tech. Have you ever used a Nest thermostat? The little blocks as you scroll through the settings, pushing the whole thing in like a button to select. It’s weirdly satisfying and I want to control everything with a big knob now.
Agree completely with the first 3, but my young person/introvert trait is that I think I should be able to get anything, including paying my bills, to work without having to talk to someone on the phone like I’m my boomer dad.
Unfortunately now it seems to be the worst of both worlds: companies don’t have a contact email, but only a phone number and sometimes a useless chat bot. When I finally work up the courage to use the phone, I have to go through a long automated menu system, and/or wait for half an hour.
Once I actually get a human on the phone it’s never as bad as my mind made it out to be -but I would still very much prefer an email.
At this point, I only buy from places with physical locations, so if I need something replaced, I can just take what I’m owed.
Also in a lot of cases it’s simply a waste of an employee’s time to answer basic questions on the phone all day long. Robots should be able to do that better. But I do agree that customers should be trapped on hold for 30 minutes.
But I do agree that customers should be trapped on hold for 30 minutes.
…You’ve worked in customer service, haven’t you? 😛
Oops
I think at least there should be at least a digital queue system so that you can just get an automated call back instead of having to wait for hours listening to the hold music.
We actually have this here in Denmark. Not for every phone queue, but more and more. My ISP is one of the companies that do that ❤️
My old person trait is that UI shouldn’t change unexpectedly when you are trying to click or touch something.
it should not change unexpectedly, period.
I don’t want to install an update and have the ui completely change on me because some dev wanted to pad out his resume by starting a new project on the fresh-framework-of-the-day.
Yes.
Pointless UI changes are a fucking atrocity, cause they are always more complicated and more informational overload than the previous design, while being more resource intensive and slower.
KISS is a motto for a reason. Unfortunately its the stupid people that seem to make the decisions and don’t register that they are the ones KISS is directed at.
Of course it shouldn’t, that’s one of the core principles of UI design, but these days it does anyway so it is an old person trait now
TIL ‘old person’ means 'having literally any god damn standards and not getting on your knees for corpodaddy at the drop of a hat.
Pretty much
agreed
I feel like this is a product of a lack of UX team or outsourcing it. When engineers are left to make a UI… they make what works (barely), not what is easy to use…
As a developer I need to be reigned in when it comes to design. I don’t know shit and have learnt that there are conventions for a reason.
Especially when you’re given a deadline where you know that you can’t afford to spend 10-20% of the time designing the interface lol
my old person trait is wanting to overthrow capitalism and give everyone basic necessities
Look at this guy pulling out traits from the grandparent of a Boomer.
My old person trait is a bad back
None of these are actually old person traits. These are just things that should be happening automatically.
That’s exactly what an old person would say!
my old person trait is that I think I should be able to afford college, a car, and a home, on a part time job, like our grandparents could.
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This.
Don’t fall for framing of these type of things as a flaw in you. None of these are unreasonable ends for the young or the old. This is not about young/old, it’s about wealthy/not wealthy - the greedy fucks making these decisions are trying to make you casually take a side in a generational conflict so that you turn your pitchforks away from them.
My old person trait is that i keep butterscotch in my pockets in case grandchildren stop by.
We have a winner!
My old person trait is not liking it when someone doesn’t take out their wireless earplugs when I talk to them.
I don’t have any old person traits! Now get off my lawn, damn kids!
My old person trait is wishing my neighbors would stay out of my yard and stop breaking noise ordinance.
My old person trait is that I think people should understand the technology they use in order to be allowed to use it
To what degree? I know how to plug inputs into my tv and turn it on, I have no idea how the TV actually works. I know how to flip a light switch, I don’t understand how to wire a house.
Fair. I think to the extent of “if you use a web browser you have to know what HTTP is”. Not really how it works, just being conscious of the technology in use.
But how does my IE chromes the google bing?
Knowing what HTTP is has 0 effect on someone’s ability to use the internet. Knowing what web browsers and search engines are does.
The idea is it’s a litmus test for tech literacy. It doesn’t have to be relevant to the daily browsing experience, it would just ensure that everyone on the internet knows what things like cookies are and what they actually do.
It’s like not bothering to learn what an engine is before learning to drive a car.
The problem with your examples is that they do affect the user’s ability to use the tech in question, and the same can’t be said for HTTP. If there isn’t a clear benefit to knowing something, then making it a requirement is just an artificial gate and an unnecessary burden. For example, pharmacists don’t withhold your prescriptions because you don’t understand a drug’s mechanism of action, but they do make sure you understand the risks and any drug interactions. Airlines don’t force you to learn how their planes create lift, but they do educate you on what to do in an emergency. I don’t see why tech should be any different from those 2.
You should know to the extent that you’re using it, not the other way around. You should understand that the house is wired, and you don’t know how to wire it, and that the light in that bulb is from fire, not wizard shit. Maybe also where to find books on how to wire a house.
The light in the bulb is most certainly not from fire.
If its an actual bulb? Yes it is. But nowadays, no probably not, but you get the point.
Yeah, light emitting diodes don’t work like traditional incandescents. I suppose you could say that a filament bulb is a controlled fire, at the most simplistic and basic level, but that’s a misrepresentation of what’s really happening. The filament heats up to a very high temperature, causing it to glow and emit light. This process is known as incandescence, and it involves heating a material until it emits light, rather than burning or combustion, which would involve a chemical reaction with oxygen to produce fire. The bulb is filled with an inert gas or a vacuum to prevent the filament from burning up due to oxidation.
Why don’t you understand those things? Both are technologies that have existed for your entire life. You’ve never been curious how either of them work? I’m biased because I’m a naturally inquisitive person, but I can’t imagine being surrounded by things I don’t understand. You can learn about both of them in less than a single evening, and your life will be richer because of it.
My point is there are plenty of things people use every day and don’t fully understand the mechanisms behind them. That is the benefit of society having people with expertise.
The average person doesn’t need to know how springs are formed, the chemical make up of the metal involved, the process of cutting trees, harvesting their lumber, cutting it into planks, how to make screws, how to weave cloth, how to create the thread for the weaving, or how to collect the materials for the thread, all in order to sleep in a bed.
Do that for every item you use on a daily basis and you see how it becomes impossible. There’s always more you can learn and one person can’t learn everything.
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This is such a big deal. The englebart paradigm of tech losing out to fucking Steve jobs put us on the bad timeline, maybe even more than Ronald Reagan.
I’m not sure you should have to fully understand, but tech that you use, and increase your agency by using abd knowing, rather than shit so simple it can use a child, is so fucking important.
Also, maybe we shouldn’t let every shiny algorithm with a primary color on its front page use children?
Bro please proofread your post
Sorry, new soft keyboard mangles fucking everything.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I read that three times and gave up. I now have the image of Mr. Hanky trying to use a child as a cell phone.
Nah. The cell phone uses the child.
The last one can be accomplished by simply not paying the bill. They’ll even call you!
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Ah but if you live in a civilised country, credit scores aren’t a thing and delivery receipts are a requirement to say yes we did sent reminders.
Everyone gets notifications. People just make shit up when they can’t pay their bills. Letters are recorded when post dates and calls recorded.
I’m not saying an accident can’t happen, but very few people are missing payments because nobody called. And most of them will be on account open.
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Can confirm. Was making minimums while unemployed both discover and Amex said LOL we’re closing your account. Please pay in full now.
Had accounts for 2 years, no notice. Fuck em. Then the collection calls started.
That how amex works. You pay in full. You probably went over your pay over time limit. You can only roll a small portion over to next month. The rest is intended to be paid in full.
And discover did no such thing. A bank can absolutely not just say you owe the entire balance in full. I very much doubt your understanding of what happened there.
Damn that’s what I get then. Lol
Credit card companies are not going to close your account because you’re making minimum payments. That is exactly what they want. I feel like we’re missing some context.
