I don’t like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.

Not voting isn’t going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he’s publicly told Israel to “finish up their war”. He’ll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn’t a straight cisgender male back here at home.

A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it’s a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy’s, and “sticking it to liberals” and “refusing to support genocide” (that’s not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way – a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.

How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump’s campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?

I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I’ll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there’s a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.

  • rutellthesinful@kbin.social
    19·
    8 months ago

    3rd parties aren’t viable

    this is just a misconception

    if the democrats lose a million votes to a third party, then yeah, they’re going to modify their policies next time around

    • jumjummy@lemmy.world
      15·
      8 months ago

      Yeah and meanwhile Trump wins and we’re all fucked. Just keep patting yourself on the back as we all sink. The OP is absolutely correct.

      Don’t be fooled, this is absolutely the angle foreign disinformation agents are pushing. “Genocide Joe” is no different than “Bernie or Bist”, he’ll, or “Stop the steal”

      • core
        12·
        8 months ago

        Don’t be fooled, this is absolutely the angle foreign disinformation agents are pushing. “Genocide Joe”

        I don’t think this has any proof.

        • Habahnow@sh.itjust.works
          5·
          8 months ago

          Lol political threads at night on lemmy are good proof. So weird how at night, all of lemmy is suddenly not liking the idea of voting for Biden, or voting 3rd party, when during regular American hours it’s not the case. You’d have to be pretty ignorant or even part of the disinformation to not notice

          • core
            7·
            8 months ago

            if this were true it would be trivial to provide links

            • Habahnow@sh.itjust.works
              3·
              8 months ago

              Literally look at this comment section: people are discouraging voting for Joe biden. What could the result be if everybody listened except that Trump would win the election? How does that even make sense if you care for the people in Gaza to get a new president that wants Isreal to “hurry up and finish up in Gaza”?

              “oh but Biden isn’t perfect! The democratic party should only have a perfect candidate!” That’s not how real life works, and especially not the crappy voting system the US has. Either you help Biden wins the presidency, where he is at least trying to discourage Israel from further violence, or where Trump wins and he will continue to give Israel a thumbs up.

              “but Genocide!” Yeah these are shitting options, but do you want more Genocide or less? There’s only one path with the potential for less genocide and not voting or voting for trump will only incur more of it.

              • core
                5·
                8 months ago

                There’s only one path with the potential for less genocide and not voting or voting for trump will only incur more of it.

                voting for biden is bad, regardless of who else is running.

              • core
                4·
                8 months ago

                What could the result be if everybody listened except that Trump would win the election?

                i expect to have at least 4 names on my ballot. i don’t need to vote for trump or biden, and voting for either of them is promoting bad things.

                • Habahnow@sh.itjust.works
                  2·
                  8 months ago

                  the other 2 names on the ballot won’t have any positive affect. they won’t get elected, they won’t win the state, and it will only make it easier for Trump.

              • core
                4·
                8 months ago

                Either you help Biden wins the presidency, where he is at least trying to discourage Israel from further violence,

                i don’t believe he’s trying to discourage anything because if he was serious, it would have stopped.

              • core
                4·
                8 months ago

                “oh but Biden isn’t perfect! The democratic party should only have a perfect candidate!”

                can you link this?

              • core
                4·
                8 months ago

                this is ad hominem. it’s also a violation of the sitewide rule about inclusion and acceptance:

                It means not telling people that you know their experiences better than they do.

      • Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world
        9·
        8 months ago

        Sounds like passing comprehensive electoral reform is not only the right thing to do, but it is also crucial to the stability of the country. Republicans obviously hate democracy, and have passed legislation trying to ban switching away from first past the post voting. Do you REALLY want to use the same voting system republicans want? What’s the excuse blue states?

        Consider watching a video on First Past the Post voting if you want to know more.

      • rutellthesinful@kbin.social
        8·
        8 months ago

        if you think voting for biden this time is more important, then by all means do that

        just understand the choice you’re making, rather than pretending one doesn’t exist