• Rooskie91@discuss.online
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    8 months ago

    Hell yes this is exactly the kind of cyclical no thought violent logic we need to keep that conflict going for another hundred years!!

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      8 months ago

      Oh, no you misunderstand, plenty of thought in what I said.

      Israel created Hamas without a care in the world, ground Palestine to their knees, kicked them while they were down, and the moment they collected enough spit to put it in Israel’s face by making rockets out of the crumbling pipes they can’t get materials to fix, Israel went mask off. Started nothing short of a genocide with virtually no opposition. So while Hamas treating their hostages poorly is sad, it’s also expected. Want to know what caught even me off guard? Israel has killed more Israeli hostages than Hamas has.

      Absolutely go fuck yourself with a soldering iron then pass the message to Israel.

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        8 months ago

        Israel has killed more Israeli hostages than Hamas has.

        How do you know this?

        What caught me off guard was that Hamas attacked military targets (not exclusively though) and the total amount of children killed on Oct 7 (including Israeli friendly fire) was 36. Israel has destroyed 70% of Gaza’s residential areas and killed over 13,000 children. 13,000 children! It seems the label “terrorist” was applied to the wrong side, especially when you consider the current situation in Rafah. Over a million people, starving, traumatized, not knowing when the next attack is coming and completely unable to defend themselves or even find a safe place. It’s unconscionable.

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          How do you know [Israel has killed more of their own hostages than Hamas]?

          Reports like this, of which I’m sure there’d be more if the IDF didn’t kill the reporters.

          Hamas are definitely closer to insurgents but are definitely still terrorists. Yes, pushed there by justifiable reasons, but we shouldn’t become disillusioned. They’re not good guys, but they are still the result of inhumane and brutal treatment.

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          8 months ago

          Their actions did and they were caught giving Hamas money. Stop lying to yourself and everyone else.

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            8 months ago

            You know, I kept hearing about this a while back so I was curious and I looked it up. Turns out it never was “israel gave hamas money”. Turns out Israel was funding certain on the ground initiatives that later folded into Hamas. It’s never so black and white, is it? I strongly encourage people to read beyond the headlines of what they read online.

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              8 months ago

              Fuck me, I bet you believe Israel earnestly is trying to hit Hamas bases under every hospital and school. Or maybe that all 13,000 children they’ve killed were actually Hamas leaders.

              Without Hamas, they have no scapegoat to wipe out Palestine. It’s never black and white, is it?

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                  8 months ago

                  Yeah you’re just trying to shoo away the fact Israel funded a terrorist group as a scapegoat for a genocide. Didn’t think it was a stretch.

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                    8 months ago

                    Aaand we’re back to point #1. It’s like a circular merry go around. I debunk one thing, you pivot to another, I call you out, and you circle back to claim number one. Fun times.