On stuff outside of lemmygrad, we are receiving a lot of hate, especially by those who just moved from Reddit. Guess they lost their hidden privilege at Reddit as their rhetoric used to be almost universal over there, while genzedong and our other subs get censored and banned. And now, on lemmy, their stuff isn’t universal, as we are more prevalent here. Seems like they really want that hidden privilege back

  • SunsetFruitbat@lemmygrad.ml
    11·
    2 years ago

    Let me clarify a little. When you say “can i just have my little echochamber please” belittling, it makes me feel like you want anyone to come here, like reactionaries and for them to say whatever they want to more or less. In which it will just be used as an entry point by reactionaries and the rest to bring all that reactionary stuff over here, bog things down and bring transphobia or racism and such. I’m not exactly sure how to word exactly what I mean right now but I’ll quote Lenin since it feels relevant to what I am trying to poorly say. I think misterslime12 linked comic says it best to.

    We are marching in a compact group along a precipitous and difficult path, firmly holding each other by the hand. We are surrounded on all sides by enemies, and we have to advance almost constantly under their fire. We have combined, by a freely adopted decision, for the purpose of fighting the enemy, and not of retreating into the neighbouring marsh, the inhabitants of which, from the very outset, have reproached us with having separated ourselves into an exclusive group and with having chosen the path of struggle instead of the path of conciliation. And now some among us begin to cry out: Let us go into the marsh! And when we begin to shame them, they retort: What backward people you are! Are you not ashamed to deny us the liberty to invite you to take a better road! Oh, yes, gentlemen! You are free not only to invite us, but to go yourselves wherever you will, even into the marsh. In fact, we think that the marsh is your proper place, and we are prepared to render you every assistance to get there. Only let go of our hands, don’t clutch at us and don’t besmirch the grand word freedom, for we too are “free” to go where we please, free to fight not only against the marsh, but also against those who are turning towards the marsh!

    From “What Is To Be Done?” by Lenin.

    • Lols@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 years ago

      if reactionaries are what you lot are actually talking about im perfectly sympathetic

      im less than convinced that thats the case though considering the response this place has had to anything right of china and russia have done no wrong ever

      • SunsetFruitbat@lemmygrad.ml
        8·
        2 years ago

        I’m gonna stop engaging since it feels like I shouldn’t reply, I’m also really sleepy and I might be poorly articulating myself again, but I just want to say like. No one here literally thinks China and Russia are perfect countries that has done no wrong. That just ideological nonsense and not grounded in reality. You can find criticism of Russia or China on here if you use the search here. I saw a discussion on here about criticism of Stalin weeks ago. Along with that, said criticism are informed and not influenced by western or anticommunism propaganda or capitalist propaganda. There is a ton of western and anticommunism propaganda out there. Like seriously there a ton.

        But to add, no country is perfect, there gonna be mistakes. However what tends to happen is like. The west tends to make mountains out of mole hills, twists what actually happen or makes non-existent things that never even happen, see Radio Free Asia that’s ran by the CIA. Another example, the United States said how Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, but they didn’t, yet people still trust the U.S or it’s media that pushed it? Why wouldn’t the United States and western media also mislead/lie about Russia or China to?

        Another issue with “criticism” of these places is that a lot are unfounded and are used to push imperialism, capitalism, and colonialism and their apologia. The U.S accusing Iraq of having WMD’s is an example of that to, as it help pushed for an invasion into Iraq. There are plenty of other examples out there to, too many to count.