• @pop@lemmy.ml
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    471 month ago

    With ICE, you control the population by controlling the oil. Like rest of the world has to eat up price raise without much retaliation, what else you’re going to do, you have to work and you depend on oil. But since China is the major producer of batteries and EVs, the nations that dictate the policies are losing that control.

    So US does what it does best, propagandize the masses. Mass produced solar panels are bad, EVs are unreliable, e-bikes are a menace.

    The world powers will turn the world to ruins if it serves their interests.

      • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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        141 month ago

        They really aren’t that much better for the planet compared to ICE and when compared to transit or active transport they really are the least effecient “green” option.

        Its not just about reducing carbon, we should be trying to reduce overall energy usage and focus on effecient systems.

        Everyone driving their electric SUV to park in a sea of pavement is not effecient land or energy use.

        • @Tak@lemmy.ml
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          There are select instances where they are a greener option than transit. If you live in rural areas with really low density it is often cheaper and greener to not build mass transit systems there. But I’m really just splitting hairs here.

            • @Tak@lemmy.ml
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              11 month ago

              Ideally busses shouldn’t even be used in situations like that as rail is significantly more efficient but a train wouldn’t want to slow for one passenger either.

              • LovesTha🥧
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                21 month ago

                @Tak Or build stations and tracks where so few people will use them.

                Building more tracks for everything would be good, but still not an answer for everything.

                A world where we only had trains and push bikes would be nice, but not likely to happen.

          • @uis@lemm.ee
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            21 month ago

            You mean using same road cars would use for buses, while optionally removing extra lanes, is less green and cheap than building and maintaining 18-lane monstrosities in the middle of nowhere?

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              18 lane monstrosities are connections between the dense cities/burbs. We’re talking two lane highways here, nobody builds an 18 lane freeway to a town with 50 people in the middle of nowhere. At best they will build a freeway THROUGH the middle of nowhere but the nowhere wasn’t the purpose of the freeway, the connection to another major city was.

              • @uis@lemm.ee
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                11 month ago

                18 lane monstrosities are connections between the dense cities/burbs.

                All those 18 lanes are built ONLY because of cars.

                • @Tak@lemmy.ml
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                  11 month ago

                  And there are fewer cars per km in rural areas. Do you think the dirt owns cars?

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                    What? Cars per length? What is this unit of? Some wierd linear density? I’m saying that that 18-lane abominations are built only for no other reason than driving cars. You say that car infrastructure is cheap, especially in rural areas, but you seem to ignore(intentionally or not) most expensive and destructive part of it. Which happens to go through rural areas. Or you can name abomination that is purely within city limits?

                    And public transit just doesn’t need this abomination. Public transit works fine even with one lane per direction. Or track if we are talking about trains.