• @Joncash2@lemmy.ml
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      694 months ago

      Yes, but this is happening in the states too yet we don’t have this kind of insanity. For example, onlyfans is basically a website dedicated to monetizing incels. But there’s an implicit understanding that those actresses have their own lives. For some reason, in S.Korea they’re not allowed to have their own lives. It’s bizarre no matter how you look at it.

      • @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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        794 months ago

        Not really.

        Onlyfans is more or less a strip club. It is not (just) about seeing titties. It is about “the fantasy”. Ask any stripper and the best possible “gimmick” is to be “working my way through (grad/law/nursing/whatever) school” since that lets clients feel like they are “saving” you.

        And, on a surface level, that is similar. Pop Idol better not have a boyfriend because she is a permanent virgin and blah blah blah.

        But that is where it ends. Because the guy who starts getting overly possessive of a stripper/sex worker/OF model/whatever? We, as a society, think they have issues and there is usually a support structure to get them away from the person they are going to stalk.

        Whereas with k-pop (and, to a somewhat lesser extent, j-pop and the like): The support structure encourages that mindset and punishes the performer for daring to ruin “the fantasy”. And, as can be seen here and every other time this happens, “society” encourages that.

        And… South Korea is so fucked that it makes Japan look like a good place to be a woman. Like, it is a genuine problem to the point that voice actresses have gotten “cancelled” because someone thought they made a rude gesture that insults men.

      • @Laticauda@lemmy.ca
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        4 months ago

        I mean there are a lot of dudes who do not have this “implicit understanding.” the difference is more in how normalized it is.

      • KingJalopy
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        24 months ago

        Ever heard of Grant Amato? This dude did not have any implicit understanding of anything whatsoever.

        For anyone interested here is a video. Go to 34:20 for this guy’s fucked up story. Wavywebsurf did a section on him and this guy… Just wow…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9IuG1GTAV0

        • @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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          44 months ago

          And he is considered a massive creep and the same level of freaks how as most “true crime” (speaking of: it is generally bad form to use the names of people like that because it is just giving them recognition).

          As opposed to the norm and the expected behavior.

    • Nakedmole
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      No, not just incels but hardcore fans and lonely people in general. The marketing strategy of pretending to be single with the goal of seeming somehow available is not gender or country specific and is used in pop music a lot. It´s all about creating a projection screen for fantasies and dreams to increase sales. Just think of boy bands in the 90s.