Googling around, I’ve seen a lot of users and journos claiming they are a jewish stereotype. I struggled to even compare them to what HP did. And as a partially jew, I’m really jealous of qualities these bigots paint and the thinking process Quark put to work. He’s probably my favorite character of the whole franchise.

  • @hglman@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Lol, yes.

    The inclusion of the particular details of goblins serves no purpose, it tells no part of the story other than to suggest the way in which rowling views Jewish people. Subjugated and marginalized, but also subject to harmful stereotypes.

    • Lath
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      Note that I am treating the HP goblins and jews as different entities. I never saw them as synonymous. The goblins’ culture in the story was theirs and theirs alone and you won’t get me to see otherwise because that’s what it is to me, a story.

      That being said, if we attribute goblins as representative to Jewish people, then we should do the same over the entire series. Which culture do the wizards represent? The giants? The werewolves? The mer people? Pure bloods? Mudbloods?

      Every other representative is ignored. The portrayal of society is ignored. The goblins are pulled out of that story and their role within, put under a spotlight and given a sign saying “pity us”.
      Because the Jewish were marginalized? They were. Many times, in many countries. Across many centuries.
      This isn’t antisemitism, it’s fact of history. Don’t like history? Too bad, it still happened.

      Have you actually seen the movies or read the books? Rowling ridicules wizard society. Who does that society represent I wonder? And in what context?

      Extract the Jewish from the goblins, then extract the society that treats them poorly. Is it still antisemitism or is it a reflection of reality at one point?