• femboy_bird
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    9 months ago

    Point one: that’s a fair point, but some may argue that due to genetics, current biological transition technology cannot truly change someone’s sex, I’m not smart enough to have an opinion on this

    Point 2: i guess what i was trying to say, is people don’t wake up and choose to be a different gender (though they may feel and therefore be one), this is kind of more based on my experience than anything else, so maybe some people do

    Point 3: yeah

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      some may argue that due to genetics, current biological transition technology cannot truly change someone’s sex, I’m not smart enough to have an opinion on this

      those people will be transphobes. Maybe if you’re not “smart enough” (in your words) to understand something, you shouldn’t be giving your opinion on it, especially so authoritatively, and instead go educate yourself on it (you can start here)?

      is people don’t wake up and choose to be a different gender (though they may feel and therefore be one), this is kind of more based on my experience than anything else, so maybe some people do

      it’s nothing to do with “waking up and choosing to be a different gender”, just like transitioning isn’t based on “merely emotions”, both are extremely dismissive.

      It seems like you mean well, but I highly recommend listening to people actually living these experiences (in the numerous trans communities on the fediverese would be a good place to start), instead of getting your information from what sounds like terrible and biased sources…

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        9 months ago

        Not that I have any problem referring to trans people as whatever sex or gender that they would like to be referred to, and others shouldn’t either, but I think the distinction between biological sex and gender identity is important at least when speaking from a medical and scientific standpoint.

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          Oh, you think that, do you??

          Are you a medical professional or a scientist?

          Are you involved in the care of an individual trans person, or are they participating in your research?

          Since you’ve answered no to all of those, and even if you had answered yes, then still no, in almost all cases, the distinction isn’t relevant, and more importantly, is none of your fucking business.

          And since I doubt you’ve had your own chromosomal make up tested, or even your hormone levels, you probably couldn’t commit 100% to your own (or anyone else’s) fucking “biological sex” so questioning that of others (or worse, demanding proof) only because they’re trans isn’t only intrusive, perverted, and outright transphobic, it’s also entirely unscientific (the term as well as the concept/construct), and as mentioned above - none of your motherfucking business.

          So you can take your generic “I’m not a transphobe but…bIoLoGiCaL sEx” excuse and shove it, and if being called a transphobe bothers you more than being one, perhaps try educating yourself instead of continuing to regurgitate the most commonly used transphobic talking points in existence…

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            9 months ago

            You seem like you want to be mad at something. I have no problem referring to you as whatever pronouns, names, sex, gender, etc. It’s just that we need words to describe chromosomal differences in biology and sex is what we chose to do that. Just in scientific fields. I am not saying that anyone’s personal sex identity is my business, but it is relevant in scientific and medical studies. Those are everybody’s business.