OK, so let’s assume that’s a good faith literal interpretation.
Let’s try it this way.
Yes, it possibly would be considered more logical, but people who threaten kids over videogames aren’t generally considered to be working with an abundance of logical thought.
I could however be wrong in this generalisation given I only have my experience to go on, if your experience leads you to believe people who threaten kids over videogames are not running with a logic deficit then your statement makes sense I suppose.
Yes, it possibly would be considered more logical, but people who threaten kids over videogames aren’t generally considered to be working with an abundance of logical thought.
You’re just repeating yourself.
“Logical” is not a binary position. It’s a spectrum.
It’s not about the writing and never has been. The Last of Us Part II was perfectly coherent and thematically true to itself. The “controversay” around this game has always been drummed up because of the misogyny of gamer bros.
Nope, the ending makes perfect sense and is foreshadowed from the beginning. The entire game is themed around the cycle of violence and revenge and how it prevents both sides from actually living, those themes are reinforced throughout the story.
The issue was Abby was built and gamer bros couldn’t handle it.
I don’t care about abby and her physical appearance, my issue was purely the santa Barbara section. Had the game ended before that started it would have been fine. By then ellie was fine leaving abby alive as killing abbys friends had not helped her process the death of Joel. They just extended the story for no reason and it made it worse
I think different people have different reasons for disliking it.
For me it’s the writing. Specifically: the first half does it very best to make you hate a specific character, then the the second half has you play that character. I get what the writers were trying to do. The problem I have with it that is doesn’t make for a fun game. I don’t want to play a character I hate.
The writers were so intent on making a specific point that they forgot that they were making a video game. A video game is different from e.g. a movie in that the player is a part of the story, they take on the role of the character they are playing.
For this to work there has to be some part of the character the player can identify with. When playing Ellie, the player can identify with the rage she’s feeling. For Abby, there’s nothing to identify with. She’s mad that Joel killed her father but Joel was entirely justified in killing him. Her father was a bad person and deserved to die.
It makes it very hard for me to put myself in her shoes. As a result I just didn’t enjoy playing as her and quit the game after realizing that it wasn’t just a short section but the entire second half of the game.
There’s a couple of actors in my province that had a hard time finding work after playing a certain role because people were mad at them personally and producers didn’t want to touch them with a 10’ pole!
Because writing has no face, you can’t show writing how much you hate it, because it doesn’t change and has no feelings. Meanwhile an actor does. It’s just stupid emotional stuff.
TBF, she did go on a tirad against players when the game was getting ciriticized. I found it weird that she took the criticism of the game’s writing so personally despite her not being one of the writers.
Keep in mind that I’m not excusing the death theats. That shit isn’t okay. I’m just pointing out why she may have been targeted for harassment.
This is really depressing, why go after an actor when the writing is at fault?
It’s not like threatening the writers’ kids would have been reasonable either
It would have at least been more logical…
I wouldn’t expect logical thinking to be a strong characteristic in someone who’d threaten kids over a videogame.
No one said you would.
OK, so let’s assume that’s a good faith literal interpretation.
Let’s try it this way.
Yes, it possibly would be considered more logical, but people who threaten kids over videogames aren’t generally considered to be working with an abundance of logical thought.
I could however be wrong in this generalisation given I only have my experience to go on, if your experience leads you to believe people who threaten kids over videogames are not running with a logic deficit then your statement makes sense I suppose.
You’re just repeating yourself.
“Logical” is not a binary position. It’s a spectrum.
So, not a good faith take then, oh well.
Agreed, not sure how it’s relevant but it seems we agree on something after all.
Ah yes “bad faith”. Right up there next to the Strawman in “Don’t actually have any argument to put forward for $500, Alex”.
It’s not about the writing and never has been. The Last of Us Part II was perfectly coherent and thematically true to itself. The “controversay” around this game has always been drummed up because of the misogyny of gamer bros.
No it’s because the quality of the story drops dramatically at the end
Nope, the ending makes perfect sense and is foreshadowed from the beginning. The entire game is themed around the cycle of violence and revenge and how it prevents both sides from actually living, those themes are reinforced throughout the story.
The issue was Abby was built and gamer bros couldn’t handle it.
The ending doesn’t make sense at all but ok. You do you.
Why does it not make sense?
I don’t care about abby and her physical appearance, my issue was purely the santa Barbara section. Had the game ended before that started it would have been fine. By then ellie was fine leaving abby alive as killing abbys friends had not helped her process the death of Joel. They just extended the story for no reason and it made it worse
I think different people have different reasons for disliking it.
For me it’s the writing. Specifically: the first half does it very best to make you hate a specific character, then the the second half has you play that character. I get what the writers were trying to do. The problem I have with it that is doesn’t make for a fun game. I don’t want to play a character I hate.
The writers were so intent on making a specific point that they forgot that they were making a video game. A video game is different from e.g. a movie in that the player is a part of the story, they take on the role of the character they are playing.
For this to work there has to be some part of the character the player can identify with. When playing Ellie, the player can identify with the rage she’s feeling. For Abby, there’s nothing to identify with. She’s mad that Joel killed her father but Joel was entirely justified in killing him. Her father was a bad person and deserved to die.
It makes it very hard for me to put myself in her shoes. As a result I just didn’t enjoy playing as her and quit the game after realizing that it wasn’t just a short section but the entire second half of the game.
Consider the average person’s intelligence. Then realize half (or so) are stupider than that.
There’s a couple of actors in my province that had a hard time finding work after playing a certain role because people were mad at them personally and producers didn’t want to touch them with a 10’ pole!
Because writing has no face, you can’t show writing how much you hate it, because it doesn’t change and has no feelings. Meanwhile an actor does. It’s just stupid emotional stuff.
*me, looking up from wiping with SOIAF* What?!
TBF, she did go on a tirad against players when the game was getting ciriticized. I found it weird that she took the criticism of the game’s writing so personally despite her not being one of the writers.
Keep in mind that I’m not excusing the death theats. That shit isn’t okay. I’m just pointing out why she may have been targeted for harassment.