Except marxists also believe in revolution and aren’t anarchists. Not all revolutions or revolutionaries are anarchists.
Capitalism was founded on overthrowing the monarchy in many countries including France and England. In the US the entire country was founded by revolt against the British. Large political changes are often accompanied by violence and civil war. That’s how things have always happened. It’s not a uniquely anarchist idea.
You do see how unappealing it is to say “Hey, we need to start a bloodbath on the level of a civil war before you can be paid a livable wage. If we decide to do wages. We’re not entirely sure what we want just yet but it isn’t this. We’re also going to do this in one of the heaviest armed countries with the most deadly weapons on the face of the Earth against people who would rather die than be poor.” right?..
Back in the day you just needed a big 'ol blade and some civil unrest but to overthrow a government and reestablish an entire economic system overnight? I think the last decade have been eventful enough…
100% understand what you mean. Can honestly say I am glad I don’t live in the USA. It’s a depressing reality to face but this is what history tells us unfortunately. If you can find another way that would actually work go for it! Good chance you can’t though…
Honestly though the USA has been bullying other countries for decades now. It’s the reason why lots of other regimes and revolutions failed. Not because they were bad inherently, but because of USA interference. The USA collapsing would be helpful to some parts of the world, and would definitely make things interesting for sure.
We’re not entirely sure what we want just yet but it isn’t this
I’ve actually seen marxists say pretty much this. I think anarchists are actually the better of the two in this regard as they believe in building up communities, co-ops, and mutual aid networks before you start overthrowing governments. There actually are some solid ideas on how you could run a non-capitalist society out there. They don’t get talked about enough honestly as people seem to think it’s a boring detail rather than a critical issue for some reason. I think choosing which is best is probably the most difficult part. I can link you to introductory videos on some of these systems if you want.
Except marxists also believe in revolution and aren’t anarchists. Not all revolutions or revolutionaries are anarchists.
Capitalism was founded on overthrowing the monarchy in many countries including France and England. In the US the entire country was founded by revolt against the British. Large political changes are often accompanied by violence and civil war. That’s how things have always happened. It’s not a uniquely anarchist idea.
You do see how unappealing it is to say “Hey, we need to start a bloodbath on the level of a civil war before you can be paid a livable wage. If we decide to do wages. We’re not entirely sure what we want just yet but it isn’t this. We’re also going to do this in one of the heaviest armed countries with the most deadly weapons on the face of the Earth against people who would rather die than be poor.” right?..
Back in the day you just needed a big 'ol blade and some civil unrest but to overthrow a government and reestablish an entire economic system overnight? I think the last decade have been eventful enough…
100% understand what you mean. Can honestly say I am glad I don’t live in the USA. It’s a depressing reality to face but this is what history tells us unfortunately. If you can find another way that would actually work go for it! Good chance you can’t though…
Honestly though the USA has been bullying other countries for decades now. It’s the reason why lots of other regimes and revolutions failed. Not because they were bad inherently, but because of USA interference. The USA collapsing would be helpful to some parts of the world, and would definitely make things interesting for sure.
I’ve actually seen marxists say pretty much this. I think anarchists are actually the better of the two in this regard as they believe in building up communities, co-ops, and mutual aid networks before you start overthrowing governments. There actually are some solid ideas on how you could run a non-capitalist society out there. They don’t get talked about enough honestly as people seem to think it’s a boring detail rather than a critical issue for some reason. I think choosing which is best is probably the most difficult part. I can link you to introductory videos on some of these systems if you want.