• @FridayChad@lemmy.world
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    66 months ago

    No one in the Arabic/muslim world really cares about Palestine. Meanwhile Israel is winning this war on terror. We will never forget this 07. October. Now‘s payday. And soon West Bank will be inhabited by jewish people.

    • Mario_Dies.wav
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      636 months ago

      It’s funny how you claim Israel is “winning this war on terror,” yet everything after that in your comment sounds like something a terrorist would say.

      • VaultBoyNewVegas
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        6 months ago

        Nevermind mind the fact the war on terror was something the US came up with and then badly fucked that up. Dude’s not even a competent troll.

        • Mario_Dies.wav
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          216 months ago

          From the POV of the US, I’d argue that the war on terror was a rousing success. They got the surveillance state they wanted.

          • @AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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            146 months ago

            War on Drugs caused drugs to become more available, more potent, and cheaper.

            War on Terror has created entirely new terrorist organizations.

            Could we have a War on Wealth?

            • @Carlo@lemmy.ca
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              36 months ago

              I mean, based on these other examples, it seems like a real monkey’s paw situation. We’d probably just get a few more asshat billionaires out of it.

      • @lugal@sopuli.xyz
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        66 months ago

        What they meant to say is: “Israel is winning the war on terror on the side of terror”

    • @NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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      226 months ago

      Palestinians are not All Arabic nor Muslim. (saying Arabic/Muslim shows how little people understand the difference. It’s as dumb as saying Caucasian/Christian. You can be one, both, or none.) Palestinian genetically are a mix of all Mediterranean peoples. And that includes Greek, European, and Arabs. Also, the Palestinian people are more secular than the surrounding Muslim countries… Second, there is no winning a war on terror. Not in the way you are thinking anyways. Every innocent person killed by Israel spawns new terrorists. It’s unwinnable through violence.

      • @Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com
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        36 months ago

        Twenty years ago there was some diversity in Gaza, but since Hamas took control and the state began condoning murder of minority groups, it has now become literally 99% Arabic and even more Muslim than that.

        • @NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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          86 months ago

          Just false. Yes Hamas has been terrorizing the minority populations but the genetics of the Palestinian people hasn’t become more Arabic and Islam is the only “state sanctioned” religion but the people of Palestine are still largely secular. I’m technically “Christian” but I don’t practice and bow my head when prayer is said at family dinners. It’s simular in Palestinian people just nood along with the religion zealots among them because it just makes life easier.

        • @NatakuNox@lemmy.world
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          26 months ago

          And sorry for the double response but what in the actual fuck is 99% Arabic? For starters, minus un-contacted tribes on islands and forests, there are no 99% ethnic people on earth! If someone is 33% Caucasian, 33% Arabic, and 33% Asian what are they to you? Because your words indicates it matters. Your words implies the 1% rule used by racist to justify atrocities. (1% rule is if someone has 1% of blood outside of “white” means they are the other race.) All I see is humans being killed in Gaza.

          TLDR: there are no large population of people that are 99% of anything. Even more so in the fucking Mediterranean.

    • @ynthrepic@lemmy.world
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      The West Bank is already inhabited by illegal Jewish settlements. It’s a big part of why Hamas were provoked into October 7th and very much why the Arab world and wider international community have been so critical of Israel since well before this conflict.

      Hamas still need to be stopped, but the current war is a terrible humanitarian tragedy that didn’t need to happen this way. The Israeli government could have vowed to end Hamas without a land war in Gaza, which anyone with half a brain should realize would inevitably lead to massive civilian casualties due to the population density of Gaza and how Hamas operate by martyring their own people in the name of Jihad - as it indeed has.

      I don’t believe Israel is an apartheid state - that’s an exaggeration for sure. Plenty of Palestinian representation in Israel. Not enough, but more than we give the situation credit for. Nevertheless, what they’re doing now is horrific, and how the Netanyahu government has been enabling the Jewish settlementation of the West Bank by forcing Palestians off their land is deeply unethical and an insult to human rights and dignity. Imagine being forced out of the only home you and your family have ever known? It’s ghastly.

      Bottom line is this could have been done differently with the right political will. I’m no expert, but here are some reasonable ideas: Properly evacuate everyone who wishes to leave and encourage Egypt to do their part to take in refugees, and any other Arab states. Create a safe, well defended evacuation route for refugees to flee, and keep it open, while you tightly secure the blockade around Gaza, and block/flood/raid the tunnels. Then, most importantly, for all Palestinian refugees, promise a “right of return” back to Gaza/West-Bank, or Israel proper to be a citizen of “Israeli-Palestine” which covers the whole area, after the war. What we might call a “1.5” state solution. Two states working together to help each other. Over time, work hard to find or build homes for refugees and all displaced Palestinian diaspora as close to where they came from as possible. Finally for the stability of the future, encourage local Palestians and Jews, whether they live in Israeli or Palestian controlled territories, to get along with each other and support these efforts with strong social programs.

      Alas.

      Hamas are terrorists yes. But there are plenty of good reasons to despise Netanyahu and his government.