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It’s a video about why the Internet and society itself is so divided nowadays.
I’m not the person you replied to, but I don’t use “are you fucking kidding me” in normal everyday real life conversation with strangers when they have done nothing to deserve that kind of attitude. Maybe you and your circle do. But not everyone does. Realize that. The entire Internet isn’t 4chan. Some of us adults enjoy non-confrontational social interaction.
I’m also more than four decades old, and I agree with the OP of this thread. I never got death threats for my opinions back in '98. I do now.
“Enforce” implies I am coercing you to be a bit more friendly online. I am merely suggesting it for future interactions, and maybe we can start to do something together about the subject of the video that was posted here and make the Internet just a bit more tolerable for all.
I have no issue with the word “fuck”. I’ll say it all goddamn day long. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
I have issues when it’s directed at people that didn’t deserve it. That’s all. Basic grade school shit that everybody learns. You’ve already called me a “cunt” twice while I have not insulted you in any way. This is not about the word itself.
Swearwords are categorised differently than ordinary words for a reason: it’s a tool that is useful to express things more forcefully than is otherwise possible. “More forceful” takes it beyond the realm of “mundane” never mind “most mundane ever” and, yes, makes it flaming, as is calling someone a “miserable cunt.”
No-one here is actually getting worked up (maybe except you? I don’t call people “miserable cunts” unless I’m at least a bit annoyed) You’re imagining that people talking to you calmly are worked up, because you can’t imagine someone disagreeing with you on this calmly. That failure of imagination is far from the worst thing in the world, but it’s causing you to be unpleasant and, I think, to be blind to a change that has taken place over the last 20 years.
I’ve never had death threats in the past or now, so rather than taking that as an indication of the state of internet users I’d rather be looking inward, no?
One thing I know about death threats is that only a handful of people actually deserve them, but vast numbers of people receive them. Death threats therefore indicate more about the people who send them than the people who receive them. That in turn means if they have become more prevalent, something in [internet] society has changed. Telling someone to “look inward” over death threats is messed up.
And from further down the thread:
Mate, you’re the one trying to enforce some prudish seppo standards about language etiquette onto others. Why would I do anything but not consider that a miserable existence, and thus call it out?
Nobody here is telling you that you have to not swear, so this is not accurate. But swearing at people is rude, and rudeness is on the rise online. More to the point, this is exactly the angry flaming that I thought I detected in your original comment. You are incapable of judging the prevalence of flaming online because to you it was always happening - because you were doing it!
In the spirit of the post, let’s find something we both like to improve the atmosphere. I skipped through your comment history to find something I agree with and found: “Housing is a necessity, not an investment opportunity.” And hey, my country has been in a housing crisis for years and I wish it were not treated as an investment opportunity here - common ground :)
I’m not the person you replied to, but I don’t use “are you fucking kidding me” in normal everyday real life conversation with strangers when they have done nothing to deserve that kind of attitude. Maybe you and your circle do. But not everyone does. Realize that. The entire Internet isn’t 4chan. Some of us adults enjoy non-confrontational social interaction.
I’m also more than four decades old, and I agree with the OP of this thread. I never got death threats for my opinions back in '98. I do now.
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There you go again. You literally can’t stop. Your entire personality is based on putting others down and trying to feel superior over them.
Trying to feel superior while using a base and repetitive vocabulary, to boot.
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I’m curious. Why though? What does it get you when you call people names or have this kind of attitude? Does it feel good or something?
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“Enforce” implies I am coercing you to be a bit more friendly online. I am merely suggesting it for future interactions, and maybe we can start to do something together about the subject of the video that was posted here and make the Internet just a bit more tolerable for all.
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I have no issue with the word “fuck”. I’ll say it all goddamn day long. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
I have issues when it’s directed at people that didn’t deserve it. That’s all. Basic grade school shit that everybody learns. You’ve already called me a “cunt” twice while I have not insulted you in any way. This is not about the word itself.
Swearwords are categorised differently than ordinary words for a reason: it’s a tool that is useful to express things more forcefully than is otherwise possible. “More forceful” takes it beyond the realm of “mundane” never mind “most mundane ever” and, yes, makes it flaming, as is calling someone a “miserable cunt.”
No-one here is actually getting worked up (maybe except you? I don’t call people “miserable cunts” unless I’m at least a bit annoyed) You’re imagining that people talking to you calmly are worked up, because you can’t imagine someone disagreeing with you on this calmly. That failure of imagination is far from the worst thing in the world, but it’s causing you to be unpleasant and, I think, to be blind to a change that has taken place over the last 20 years.
One thing I know about death threats is that only a handful of people actually deserve them, but vast numbers of people receive them. Death threats therefore indicate more about the people who send them than the people who receive them. That in turn means if they have become more prevalent, something in [internet] society has changed. Telling someone to “look inward” over death threats is messed up.
And from further down the thread:
Nobody here is telling you that you have to not swear, so this is not accurate. But swearing at people is rude, and rudeness is on the rise online. More to the point, this is exactly the angry flaming that I thought I detected in your original comment. You are incapable of judging the prevalence of flaming online because to you it was always happening - because you were doing it!
In the spirit of the post, let’s find something we both like to improve the atmosphere. I skipped through your comment history to find something I agree with and found: “Housing is a necessity, not an investment opportunity.” And hey, my country has been in a housing crisis for years and I wish it were not treated as an investment opportunity here - common ground :)
Lemmy really needs a super-upvote system
Kbin does have the boost…