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    For millions of people, that is not an option. And I’m assuming you mean “BEVs” not electric vehicles. FCEVs are also electric vehicles. Furthermore, the claims of the BEV industry are not to be trusted. It is no different than citing the oil industry’s claim that BEVs cost the the equivalent of $17/gallon to drive.

    Battery swapping will explode the logistical and resource requirements of BEVs. It makes the problem even worse.

    Airplanes will probably use some combo of e-fuels or LH₂ setup. The latter is doable via a new type of airframe like a blended wing body.

    If speed is important, you’d support the rapid adoption of hydrogen, not oppose it. These are not credible arguments unless you do not actually believe in climate change.

    Renewable energy is leading to vast curtailment and excess production. That energy is pretty much wasted. Turning it into hydrogen will not cost that much money nor require that much more generation capacity.

    Large scale storage of hydrogen is done with natural occurring salt caverns. These cost far less than just about anything else ever conceived.

    Again, if the goal is to phase fossil fuels, you would go hard in favor of green hydrogen, alongside many other ideas. You would not oppose any green energy ideas.

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        A lot of those “agnostic” sources are secretly working for the BEV companies. There’s a lot of misinformation out there. Anyways, given that a fuel cell is vastly more efficient than a conventional ICE, there shouldn’t be an issue on efficiency. FCEVs are more than good enough. Anyone bringing this issue up as a problem is either confused or has an agenda. After all, FCEVs are also EVs.

        Gas stations are much cheaper than battery swapping. In fact, that is the main argument in favor of FCEVs. Replacing existing gas stations with hydrogen stations is a much cheaper solution than putting up millions of charging stations, battery swapping stations, DC fast charging stations, etc.

        I’m on Kbin FYI. It mostly works for my needs.

        Excess green energy will likely flood the system. We will have an overabundance of all types of green energy, including hydrogen, in the long-run.

        Critics of hydrogen are basically contradicting themselves. If you admit the need for energy storage in the form of hydrogen, you are also admitting the existence of very cheap hydrogen. That will be available for a variety of tasks. It will become the go-to solution for anything that needs a chemical fuel. If it is cheap enough for heating or steel production, it will be cheap enough for transportation solutions too.

        Yes, you should read up on salt cavern storage: https://www.pv-magazine.com/2020/06/16/hydrogen-storage-in-salt-caverns/