• @abraxas@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    So let me get this straight. You’re on the Left’s side with everything the Right has been calling riots? You’re on the Left’s side on every issue? But you’re a centrist?

    I mean, that probably reads for Canada, where your Right-wing party sorta resembles Democrats with an added hint of fascism (at least, that’s how my Canadian friends put it. I genuinely am not an expert on Canadian politics).

    The one issue they believed in so hard though, that it was enough to vote Trump (in that instance, their line was abortion)

    If you want to lock women and doctors in cages for something that a vast majority of your country thinks is 100% acceptable, then you’re a monster. If you want to include them in “Centrists”, have at it. But single-issue voters are absolutely something “we who dislike centrists” toss into that category that disgusts us.

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      8 months ago

      You’re on the Left’s side with everything the Right has been calling riots? You’re on the Left’s side on every issue? But you’re a centrist?

      Well, now we’re getting personal and not into party / nomenclature semantics. But no, I’m not on the “left” side of every issue.

      For example, I gave the example elsewhere in this thread, but I believe in much tighter immigration controls, if not outright eliminating most of it for now. You may look at that and call me a racist. You would be wrong. The race is irrelevant, and it’s an environmental and economic stance that led me there. Our current immigration policies allow pushing down the minimum wage, makes UBI more difficult (if not impossible) to implement, and allow countries that are outstripping their resources to simply place those people elsewhere instead of dealing with their population issues in a realistic way. This is one of many things that has also irreparably damaged the environment.

      Something done for good reasons is having bad knock-on effects and we should adjust things before it gets worse. In my experience, a Centrist gets to say “right idea, horrible implementation, let’s fix it” instead of just clinging to an ideal.

      I don’t like people making baseless accusations. I defend people on all sides when people are wrong about their opposition. I hate it when people think they know what others think and project incorrect (and often evil) bullshit on each other. It’s important to be right with the right reasoning and conclusion, not just one or the other.

      I care when Christians purposely mischaracterize Muslims, and I am neither of those groups. I hate people being wilfully wrong because their group fetishizes a certain angle of the truth instead of the boring reality of the situation.

      Ideas are important and I don’t feel we can get out of the current shitty slump we’re in politically unless we clearly identify and discuss the world. Labels and group membership make that harder to do.

      If you want to lock women and doctors in cages for something that a vast majority of your country thinks is 100% acceptable, then you’re a monster.

      Sure. The opinion expressed wasn’t mine, and you’re free to think that all you want. It was just an example of a position that didn’t fit your definition. The episode didn’t get into whether they felt like locking people in cages was appropriate or otherwise. Maybe they had in mind another solution. I don’t know and they didn’t get into it.