• Cosmic Cleric
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    668 months ago

    Looking through all the comments in this topic, it’s sad to see that at this point we’re arguing about defining labels, instead of solving problems.

    • Cethin
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      358 months ago

      Well we can’t solve problems. What else are we going to do?

      • Cosmic Cleric
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        28 months ago

        You can, but you have to play the long game, and you have to be diligent.

        • @III@lemmy.world
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          48 months ago

          Sadly, liberals don’t have those super effective methods of keeping their eye on the long game that conservatives do, like hatred for people of color or hatred of women. Diligence is all they have.

          • Cosmic Cleric
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            28 months ago

            Sadly, liberals don’t have those super effective methods of keeping their eye on the long game that conservatives do

            Historically, you’re very right, but I think they’re starting to figure it out.

            Worth mentioning at least, to get more exposure to the concept.

      • Cosmic Cleric
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        58 months ago

        Hmm almost like this post is specifically about labels.

        There’s a difference between identifying a group of people and then discussing how they act, vs trying to decide what is an identifier for a group of people.

        I was expecting the former in this topic, but seeing just the ladder.

        • @Vespair@lemm.ee
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          I’m with you. It’s feels like there is an intentional effort to muddy up situations like these that should be talked about with nuance and understanding instead with reductiveness and handwaving. We aren’t using labels as helpful shorthand, we’re using them as weapons of dismal, and I frankly don’t think this trend is without a nefarious architect.

      • @frezik@midwest.social
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        38 months ago

        Politics is about getting people to work together towards a goal. This applies from the UN all the way down to community gardens. The power and money seeking are a corruption of its purpose.

        • @KevonLooney@lemm.ee
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          18 months ago

          Politics is about getting people to work together towards a goal.

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          The power and money seeking

          are the same thing. Your goal may be to help people. The goal of conservatives is to help themselves. That’s why they think liberals are misguided.

          They think “Stupid liberals helping others, they’re idiots. They could be helping themselves!”

      • Cosmic Cleric
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        18 months ago

        Politics isn’t about solving problems. It’s about money and power.

        Its both actually, in various degrees, based on the person/party.