So the solution is to rear a generation of children who believe violence, riots, revolutions, and coup-d’etat is the solution for social change? Because the big problem you are glossing over is that these changes throughout history essentially all involved violence to some degree.
Small progress over time happens through peaceful protest, canvassing, voting, and generally making your voice heard.
But you can’t vote your way out of authoritarianism. You can’t vote away a broken system that incentivizes those in power to keep it broken. That change has to come with grand action and all at once.
What “grand action” do you suppose is appropriate in this scenario? I seem to recall some people taking a grand action on January 6, 2021 also. What separates them from you, besides their radically different ideology?
You know what? They were misguided and wrong, but at least the Jan 6th wankers did something. Now there are politicians who are afraid to do their jobs because the same sort of people threaten them.
Then what’s the way forward? Jan 6 V2 but this time it’s left wing people instead? Ok, then what? You can storm in and overthrow all the evil geriatrics and install the utopian government of your dreams, but then what do you do about the 50% of constituents who oppose that move?
The bedrock of democracy is compromise. If you seize power and install a government that works to further your interests and not strike balance between your interests and their interests, you’re an authoritarian in disguise.
Compromise needs two parties, and it depends on perspective. If we put people who organize coups, murderous cops and their enablers, or corporate ghouls imploding our planet while making common people miserable into prison for decades to life, it could be a compromise between not doing that and mobs indiscriminately killing everyone with any kind of authority.
There are two big problems with violent political measures, one is that if they start, they are very hard to stop, one coup may be followed by three more in the same year, and that the democratic system being made ever weaker by corruption out in the open makes it inevitable.
Here in the UK they are slowly but surely banning protesting, peaceful and non peaceful. Take away peaceful protesting there only is one way. Like it or not, they don’t want to hear you or your voice, they just want you to rot and die.
They’re not glossing over it, nor is it a “big problem”; that’s the whole entire point of the tweet. You can’t defeat tyranny 100% non-violently, period.
So the solution is to rear a generation of children who believe violence, riots, revolutions, and coup-d’etat is the solution for social change? Because the big problem you are glossing over is that these changes throughout history essentially all involved violence to some degree.
Small progress over time happens through peaceful protest, canvassing, voting, and generally making your voice heard.
But you can’t vote your way out of authoritarianism. You can’t vote away a broken system that incentivizes those in power to keep it broken. That change has to come with grand action and all at once.
What “grand action” do you suppose is appropriate in this scenario? I seem to recall some people taking a grand action on January 6, 2021 also. What separates them from you, besides their radically different ideology?
That’s not the right way.
You know what? They were misguided and wrong, but at least the Jan 6th wankers did something. Now there are politicians who are afraid to do their jobs because the same sort of people threaten them.
What has “being better” done for anyone?
Then what’s the way forward? Jan 6 V2 but this time it’s left wing people instead? Ok, then what? You can storm in and overthrow all the evil geriatrics and install the utopian government of your dreams, but then what do you do about the 50% of constituents who oppose that move?
The bedrock of democracy is compromise. If you seize power and install a government that works to further your interests and not strike balance between your interests and their interests, you’re an authoritarian in disguise.
You’re right, we need to kill half of trans people, otherwise we are exercising authority on right wingers /s
I for one think it is reasonable to exercise authority when someone is trying to oppress others
Compromise needs two parties, and it depends on perspective. If we put people who organize coups, murderous cops and their enablers, or corporate ghouls imploding our planet while making common people miserable into prison for decades to life, it could be a compromise between not doing that and mobs indiscriminately killing everyone with any kind of authority.
There are two big problems with violent political measures, one is that if they start, they are very hard to stop, one coup may be followed by three more in the same year, and that the democratic system being made ever weaker by corruption out in the open makes it inevitable.
Im not willing to compromise with people who want to kill my friends. I don’t know why that’s so hard for so many people, including yourself.
Here in the UK they are slowly but surely banning protesting, peaceful and non peaceful. Take away peaceful protesting there only is one way. Like it or not, they don’t want to hear you or your voice, they just want you to rot and die.
I hear this in an obnoxious German accent with a nazi being shot by a red army soldier in the background
They’re not glossing over it, nor is it a “big problem”; that’s the whole entire point of the tweet. You can’t defeat tyranny 100% non-violently, period.
Oh, ok, so then it is in fact an incitement to violence. Isn’t that swell, we aren’t even trying to hide it anymore.
Sounds like Mao to me lmao.
Yes that’s correct
Liberals think the status quo of capitalist and state oppression isn’t violent. News at 11. yawn