Like the title states looking for E2EE apps (Android and iOS) without going into much details or needs to be robust enough and easy to use for anyone and stable for operations that are susceptible to constant electronic warfare. I did some research and thought about replacing Signal with Molly and wondering if it will still work if Signal leaves the EU, but am also worried about its updates to patch vulnerabilities in a timely manner. I appreciate the help I am a “Jack of all trades and master of none” when it comes to these types of programs, but am also the go to currently in my unit since I am somewhat knowledgeable about exploits and attacks that can compromise systems would be great if there was an desktop as well (like Signal) and would also be nice if it was FOSS and auditable ( I know that’s kind of redundant ) I know it’s a tall order to ask but figured I would try. I really appreciate the help so much and hope I did things by the rules here and don’t get flamed if this has already been covered ( I searched but my skills with searching the fediverse is low

  • Hazel
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    1 year ago

    Take a look at the matrix network. Its decentralized like lemmy and the cryptography is on point. And it cant really be cencored due to this reason.

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      I didn’t realize matrix was well encrypted, cool! I’ve been just using it for group messages because it’s federated.

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        1 year ago

        On element it is by default actually.

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      I didn’t realize matrix was well encrypted, cool! I’ve been just using it for group messages because it’s federated.

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      I didn’t realize matrix was well encrypted, cool! I’ve been just using it for group messages because it’s federated.

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        Yes its possible, but you are free not to send unencrypted matrix messanges.

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          Human error is possible. Happens to our users PGP emails all the time.

          As an org we dont allow any software where its possible to send unencrypted messages. It too much risk.

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            this seems easily fixable by choice of end user app, Element surely defaults to sending encrypted messages, if a user goes out of their way to figure out how to send clear text good on 'em

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            I completely agree. Though pgp emails usually have to be set up. At least when using element nothing has to be set up and it is enabled by default. But this doesnt change the point.

            As an org self hosting a matrix server would be an option. But the issue would still remain. So its a tradof

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        Yes, because for large public rooms it makes no sense as anyone can leak the message contents anyway and e2ee is expensive for large rooms.