• FfaerieOxide
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    19 months ago

    that’s literally the first article you linked to.

    Yeah I thought maybe you would read it this time.

    • danhakimi
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      19 months ago

      I read it, and responded to it. You’ve been ignoring my response because you don’t have an answer to it. So again. The core argument that terfs are fascists is:

      To that end, Butler does a good job of laying out that the anti-trans movement ultimately is about strengthening government oversight — restricting access to medical care and generally seeking to ban LGBTQ+ people from the public sphere, which fits pretty neatly into just about every standard definition of fascism. That includes gender critical feminists, the self-professed “leftist” equivalent of the more extreme right-wing fundamentalists.

      Which, again:

      • Pretends the entire social-focused aspect of the anti-trans movement doesn’t exist, when it obviously does, and there are obviously many, many terfs focused on non-governmental oppression. The article itself describes governmental forms of oppression, but this does nothing to imply that the anti-trans movement is actually all about focusing on government oppression
      • identifies an extremely superficial relationship between two positions as both being statist and therefore being the same. The police state is also about increasing government oversight. A command economy is about increasing government oversight. The founding of the CFPB was about increasing government oversight. Having courts is about increasing government oversight. These are not all forms of fascism.
      • fails to describe fascism at all. Fascism is a specific thing with a specific definition, it’s not just the idea of having an active government. Fascism is a form of nationalism with a dictatorial government, a strong military focus, a hard command economy that exists to support the state and the military, expansionist policies, suppression of opposition to the government, denigration of the individual in favor of the collective in the form of the state… Now, the terf movement, overall, is doing some of those things, but the article doesn’t reference any of them.
      • fails to establish that most terfs, or the core proponents of the terf movement, or terfs in general, are fascists, let alone that a terf is categorically a type of fascists.

      If you have a point, then instead of linking to the same article again or linking article that isn’t about fascism, please make your point.

        • danhakimi
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          9 months ago

          who gains from making up a new definition of fascism? why do you want people to be ignorant?

          know thy enemy.

          I’m not nitpicking here, I’m not being pedantic, your article didn’t even vaguely touch on what fascism is. Maybe the underlying article did, but I’m having trouble imagining what the point is.

          • FfaerieOxide
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            19 months ago

            Does it piss you off you spend all this effort flailing about defending fascists and I still tell you (correctly) you’re wrong and spend a fraction of the effort?

            • danhakimi
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              9 months ago

              where the fuck do you see me defednding fascists?

              does it piss you off that you don’t have any response to anything I’ve actually said? does it piss you off to discover that this publication you like just published a point it didn’t understand at all? does it piss you off to see a person argue that we should attack terfs for being terfs and fascists for being fascists and not just assume that all bad people are the same kind of bad person?

              is that why you’re afraid to read any of my comments?

              • FfaerieOxide
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                19 months ago

                Having no time for a jackass in a month old thread dredging up his lack of reading comprehension and pathological need to defend fascists from true accusations of being fascists is very much different than being afraid.

                You are correct that I am not reading your replies at this point, nor is anyone else.

                • danhakimi
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                  19 months ago

                  stop saying that I’m defending fascists, asshole.

                  you didn’t read any of my replies, and you kept accusing me of shit I’m not doing, because you are, in fact, not interested in defending your bullshit. Blaming me for that is sad.

                  also… I just found this thread today, how did that happen?