• Remmock
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              The commenter is asking you to define “they” because they don’t want you to try to squirm out from under the statistical landslide of facts about just how bad the poor in America have it. About how they don’t have the money and they don’t have the means to get more money when even a college-educated person can’t land a proper full-time paying position to cover the expenses of a family anymore.

              But you knew that, which is why you started squirming early.

    • @willeypete23@reddthat.com
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      People commit theft because the barriers / consequences of theft to obtain an item or less than the barriers/consequences of legitimate purchase. It’s always a supply and availability issue. Humans aren’t intrinsically evil. Also there aren’t a bunch of programs to provide free baby supplies. Even WIC requires application but some people might not have the time or ability to go to. And it’s not free with WIC, you still have to pay.

      Also if you want to talk philosophy, children are too young to consent and be beholden to the social contract. They’re participation is mandatory because they are innocent and dependent. It’s our obligation to provide for them collectively.

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          And people aren’t born evil but they do become it in very insidious ways. And one way is being someone who never stopped to care that their actions and behaviors would put a burden on others.

          You literally just said: “People aren’t born evil but they do become it by being someone who was born evil.” If they never stopped to care their whole lives, they started that way.

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            If you’re a single man with infants (under age 1) and/or children (under age 5) then, THEY are eligible for the benefits of the program. Women are specifically added in because the program is designed to also help pregnant, breastfeeding and/or postpartum women who have their own nutritional needs. Women who don’t meet those requirements are also not eligible.

            So, you don’t get help with food for yourself, but you can get assistance for infants/children … there are other programs to help you.

            Search terms used on Google in Incognito mode: single man with children WIC eligibility
            Brings you to this page: https://www.joinproviders.com/state/illinois/wic/
            Which has the below information:
            There are four kinds of eligibility for WIC:

            1. Categorical: you need to be a mom, child, or have custody of a child.

            Moms have to be pregnant, up to six months past pregnancy, or up to your baby’s first birthday if you’re breastfeeding.

            Children are eligible up to their fifth birthday.

            Foster parents, guardians and single fathers who have custody of their children are also eligible.

            1. Residential: You need to live in the state where you’re applying.

            2. Nutritional: A health professional needs to determine if you are at “nutrition risk.” This might mean you have a medical condition like anemia, or a diet that could be healthier. You can see a health professional for free at a local WIC clinic.

            3. Financial: Your household needs to make less than the amounts listed in the income limit table below to qualify for WIC. A pregnant woman counts as two (or more) household members. If you know you’re having more than one baby, count each one as a household member.

            The top link for that search is for a page in IL, but I saw similar for other states.

    • @pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works
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      no decent person steals from small business… its common sense to avoid that and most people who do steal do it from walmart and megacorps. idrk where u got worrying ab small business from, its just considered shitty to steal from them. but big corps who lay around in their yacht profiting off of others being too broke to eat and feed their kids? fuck them. steal all you can from them because they will from you.

    • @deathbird@mander.xyz
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      Never seen anyone steal baby formula outside a riot, because it’s always locked up.

      But yeah, I’m sure some people steal because they’re hungry, but the people I saw steal when working grocery stole steaks, lobster, shrimp, eye drops, high-end hair products, and workers’ hours. If someone was ever stealing out of need (fuck, even a single carbohydrate) they were slick enough about it not to get caught. But we tracked shrink, and could tell when something disappeared without account.