The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    I’m not claiming I’m helping to eliminate the Russian fascist. You’re claiming your vote is helping to prevent it domestically.

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      I’m claiming that you can’t blame people who didn’t vote for fascism for fascism.

      You are claiming that people who don’t vote how you want them to are helping to bring forth fascism.

      following that logic by not fighting in Ukraine you too are giving rise to domestic fascism in that putin could one day become a fascist dictator of America if not stopped.

      by not stopping him you too support fascism in America.

      Edit: Don’t let billionaires divide us, you are better than that, Republicans are better than that, I believe you want the best for america just like they do, you are both just confused on how to do it and who the actual enemies of democracy are.

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        Because of the shitty structure of the voting system, people who “didn’t vote for fascism” can, in fact, be supporting the fascist party.

        This is a mathematical consequence of the specific type of shitty that our voting system is.

        As a supporter of better voting systems, you can realize that.

        And then, as a voter, you can look at your district and you can look at the candidates, and you can fucking vote tactically in the way that will, in fact, mathematically, provably reduce the chance of electing a fucking Nazi.

        Right now, under the voting system we actually have, if you’re in a purple state and vote for Cornel West, if you are mathematically literate you know you’re helping elect Trump.

        That’s just true. Simply true. It’s a consequence of the shitty voting system, but it’s a real consequence. That’s actually how it will happen. It’s not about how you feel in your heart. It’s about whether police are going to drag LGBT+ kids away from their supportive parents. It’s about whether birthright citizenship is retroactively abolished. It’s about whether the January 6 perpetrators get not only pardoned, but appointed to office.

        You know the choice you have. It’s a shitty choice, because you and I both know that the first-past-the-post voting system creates shitty choices.

        But still … don’t vote for fascism.

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          Fight the system, the blm protests did help, their only failing wa people didn’t keep up with it the power of the people is not in voting it is collective action in the streets.

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        You know what is bullshit? Money. A $100 bill and a $1 are the same physical thing. Why should a $100 bill be worth 100 times more than a $1 bill? It’s all the same thing.

        But society uses money, I have to play by those rules. I can’t pay five lunch with $1 if they says it’s $20. I have to work in the system even if it sucks.