• FlashMobOfOne
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    5210 months ago

    I mean, the US has been helping Saudi Arabia starve and destroy Yemen for eight years now. Aren’t we also a sponsor of war?

          • Bezerker03
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            210 months ago

            Depends on how you want to maximize equality. Nazi Germany maximized it by eliminating everyone else lol. Probably not a good guy. :)

              • Bezerker03
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                110 months ago

                The idea is that the Nazis tried to create in their perverse fucked up way technical equality by exterminating everyone else that didn’t conform to their vision and everyone else was equally removed from existence. Thus not all methods of getting to equality are valid or good and we should be careful about saying all methods of creating equality or mandating it are good.

                • @betheydocrime@lemmy.world
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                  110 months ago

                  The logic I don’t follow is how killing some people and not killing others is in any way an application of equality. They decided that the people they killed were unequal. Like, the logic of your individual points makes sense, but it’s the overall logic of your argument that I can’t follow.

                  • Bezerker03
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                    110 months ago

                    By killing everyone else except they considered acceptable it leaves only equality left. One of their goals was to remove everyone else who didn’t fit into their vision leaving only those left.

                    It’s similar to the policies that mandate various under represented groups are the only ones able to partake in various activities. Both are shitty methods of creating equal outcomes just… One is far more lethal and terrible obviously. But the same flawed logic trying to force an outcome.

            • @Omniraptor
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              110 months ago

              No they definitely had plans to leave some untermenschen alive as slaves. I wouldn’t call that maximizing equality

              • Bezerker03
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                110 months ago

                They’ve simply been promoted to living to serve the remainder of the population! (I’m just using the playbook from every movie for evil dictator justifications. Absolutely don’t think this at all btw. Big /s after these statements if it wasn’t clear. )

            • @betheydocrime@lemmy.world
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              110 months ago

              I think my point is obvious enough to be understood without getting bogged down in the pedantry of equity vs equality, but if you want to start that discussion you are welcome to provide some definitions :)

      • @Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world
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        610 months ago

        There have been plenty of times they were, though name any country with 200+ years of existence and I’ll show you how they aren’t the good guys either from certain points of view. Ask Africa how they feel about some of the perceived “good guys” in the EU

    • @erranto@lemmy.world
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      310 months ago

      Those are the Good guys, Gods gift to humanity, they dictate what is moral and what ever harm they bring on others they are still righteous