As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what’s racist for us.
The picture of Xi the Pooh is clearly a parody and pointed specifically at Xi and the CCP, and not a general racist insult to Asians. Every, and I mean EVERYONE, in East Asia knows that, including the Chinese themselves. We use/refer to it a lot ourselves on our own social media platforms in Taiwan (習維尼, 習: Xi, and Winnie the Pooh: 維尼), and if you mention any of it on Chinese social media Weibo/WeChat, you likely will get banned from the platform.
Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos. Like, no one here is offended. We don’t understand why those people feel the need to be angry for us.
Edit: I just saw a Hexbear comment on another thread posting that China doesn’t ban Winnie the Pooh because Disney is able to exist. Well, no shit. It’s in the context of Disney. Put that phrase in any other thread on their platform (preferably political) and see what happens, then can you claim that the CCP doesn’t ban the word Xi the Pooh.
Edit: Someone clearly is salty enough to downvote a comment they didn’t read or even bother to translate themselves. FYI, it’s about the typhoon weather here in Taiwan. Not even remotely political/on topic. Pathetic.
Yeah as far as I know the Winnie the Pooh thing originated in the PRC. Apparently Xi is really upset about it and did a hard ban on it. But it’s kinda a Streisand effect kind of thing so places outside of the CCP’s control kinda ran with it.
But the hexbears are just conditioned to say it’s racist to try to shut down any conversation about it. I mean it’s their tyrant using censorship for an extremely petty reason. I probably wouldn’t call him Xi the Pooh myself if it weren’t for the fact that this tyrant is so butthurt and petty about it. And that’s what makes it hilarious. And fuck that guy.
Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos.
Yeah the whole cultural appropriation thing is weird. Sure it’s wrong to trivialize something that holds a lot cultural or religious significance to others. But people generally like seeing others participate in their culture, and they’ll let you know when something is sacred and not for a casual tourist to participate in.
When I went to Peru I bought a shirt from a tourist shop that was the local style. Everyone seemed happy to see that. One older woman said she was happy to see a westerner wearing the local style and invited me to a wedding. Approval all around… except for one guy that said I probably shouldn’t be wearing that shirt. It was a white guy from the UK (judging from the accent).
And the kimono thing is really weird. When I was in Kyoto, anyone could dress up as a samurai or a geisha. Not only was it acceptable, the shops would give discounts to people dressed up this way. Because it made things more fun. This may be shocking to some people, but cosplay is fairly popular in Japan. I also saw some dudes in a park cosplaying as American 1950s geasers. Was I offended by this because they were appropriating our culture? Of course not, they seemed to be having fun and nobody dresses that way anymore anyway.
The idea of a blanket stigmatizing of western people having any participation in other cultures seems like it’ll be a problem long term. If it’s ok for everyone in the world to adopt western culture, but not ok for westerners to adopt anything from anyone else’s culture, then western culture spreads and other cultures don’t. Seems to me like what happens with colonialism, but this time with good intentions! But intentions doesn’t change the result. And if the result is the spread of western culture while preventing the spread of other cultures, seems like a bad result to me.
If I were a head of state, on a suitable occasion I’d absolutely make sure that the state present is a selection of the finest local honeys. Also some mead for completeness’ sake. Let their diplomatic corps bend over backwards attempting to not insult such a fine offering of friendship.
One of them called me a nazi apologist because of something similar. Like how in the fuck did you make that connection? They’re delusional at best, a troll factory at worst.
Not really westerners. Pretty much the whole US left with their history of fucked-up race relations and cultural penchant for either pussy-footing or waving their dicks around, nothing in between, and a small splattering of leftist from other countries drawn into their bullshit reasoning and inability to see context that is beyond the brim of their burger.
What in the world have I woken up into…
As an Asian/Taiwanese, I do not understand why Hexbearians feel the need to point out what’s racist for us.
The picture of Xi the Pooh is clearly a parody and pointed specifically at Xi and the CCP, and not a general racist insult to Asians. Every, and I mean EVERYONE, in East Asia knows that, including the Chinese themselves. We use/refer to it a lot ourselves on our own social media platforms in Taiwan (習維尼, 習: Xi, and Winnie the Pooh: 維尼), and if you mention any of it on Chinese social media Weibo/WeChat, you likely will get banned from the platform.
Kind of reminds me of cultural appropriation gone out of hand, where Westerners feel the need to be angry at other Westerners for wearing Japanese Kimonos or Chinese Quipaos. Like, no one here is offended. We don’t understand why those people feel the need to be angry for us.
Edit: I just saw a Hexbear comment on another thread posting that China doesn’t ban Winnie the Pooh because Disney is able to exist. Well, no shit. It’s in the context of Disney. Put that phrase in any other thread on their platform (preferably political) and see what happens, then can you claim that the CCP doesn’t ban the word Xi the Pooh.
Watch out, you’re Taiwanese so you don’t exist to those racism fighters 👍
poof
How dare you try to develop your own opinion. Don’t you know that white girls on social media get to tell you what to be offended by?
Combating racism with racism. Well that’s just great.
White paternalism is a form of racism. Are you one of those “the real racists are the ones calling out my racism” types?
How dare you not let the, probably also white, tankies decide what is and is not racist towards you. /s i hope they all kick rocks
嗨，難得可以在 Lemmy 上遇到台灣人。相信我，我懂你的心情。我前幾天也被六熊們搞得很煩。什麼新疆人過得很好、習維尼迷因是種族歧視、台灣是中共領土等巴拉巴拉的。
我家外面風好大，雨也好大，你那邊呢？
嗨 是真的難得在這邊遇到台灣人
我也沒特別加入甚麼亞洲人群哈哈
我住北部 這邊風雨現在還好
明天看起來不會有颱風假了😂
東部南部跟離島看起來比較嚴重
希望你那邊安好：）
Edit: Someone clearly is salty enough to downvote a comment they didn’t read or even bother to translate themselves. FYI, it’s about the typhoon weather here in Taiwan. Not even remotely political/on topic. Pathetic.
I also noticed the 1 or 2 people downvoting our comments. Seems like some people just downvote things they don’t understand. Pathetic indeed.
我其實也住北部啦哈哈，風真的很大，雨普通大而已。謝謝關心 xD。但我還是不死心，希望明天有颱風假
剛剛宣布北北基桃明天正常上班上課… 眼神死
坐等新竹
不過大概也沒望了 ：（
Having DeepL is pretty fun. :)
Yeah as far as I know the Winnie the Pooh thing originated in the PRC. Apparently Xi is really upset about it and did a hard ban on it. But it’s kinda a Streisand effect kind of thing so places outside of the CCP’s control kinda ran with it.
But the hexbears are just conditioned to say it’s racist to try to shut down any conversation about it. I mean it’s their tyrant using censorship for an extremely petty reason. I probably wouldn’t call him Xi the Pooh myself if it weren’t for the fact that this tyrant is so butthurt and petty about it. And that’s what makes it hilarious. And fuck that guy.
Yeah the whole cultural appropriation thing is weird. Sure it’s wrong to trivialize something that holds a lot cultural or religious significance to others. But people generally like seeing others participate in their culture, and they’ll let you know when something is sacred and not for a casual tourist to participate in.
When I went to Peru I bought a shirt from a tourist shop that was the local style. Everyone seemed happy to see that. One older woman said she was happy to see a westerner wearing the local style and invited me to a wedding. Approval all around… except for one guy that said I probably shouldn’t be wearing that shirt. It was a white guy from the UK (judging from the accent).
And the kimono thing is really weird. When I was in Kyoto, anyone could dress up as a samurai or a geisha. Not only was it acceptable, the shops would give discounts to people dressed up this way. Because it made things more fun. This may be shocking to some people, but cosplay is fairly popular in Japan. I also saw some dudes in a park cosplaying as American 1950s geasers. Was I offended by this because they were appropriating our culture? Of course not, they seemed to be having fun and nobody dresses that way anymore anyway.
The idea of a blanket stigmatizing of western people having any participation in other cultures seems like it’ll be a problem long term. If it’s ok for everyone in the world to adopt western culture, but not ok for westerners to adopt anything from anyone else’s culture, then western culture spreads and other cultures don’t. Seems to me like what happens with colonialism, but this time with good intentions! But intentions doesn’t change the result. And if the result is the spread of western culture while preventing the spread of other cultures, seems like a bad result to me.
If I were a head of state, on a suitable occasion I’d absolutely make sure that the state present is a selection of the finest local honeys. Also some mead for completeness’ sake. Let their diplomatic corps bend over backwards attempting to not insult such a fine offering of friendship.
EDIT: Oh. This episode of Yes, Prime Minister.
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One of them called me a nazi apologist because of something similar. Like how in the fuck did you make that connection? They’re delusional at best, a troll factory at worst.
It’s called Whitesplaining and it’s actually in the dictionary.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whitesplain
“(of a white person) to comment on the minority experience or explain racism to a person of color in a condescending or blaming way…”
I think it’s a key giveaway that someone is a narcissist.
Not really westerners. Pretty much the whole US left with their history of fucked-up race relations and cultural penchant for either pussy-footing or waving their dicks around, nothing in between, and a small splattering of leftist from other countries drawn into their bullshit reasoning and inability to see context that is beyond the brim of their burger.