• @elscallr@lemmy.world
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    410 months ago

    Because they’re not going away, to be honest. I’m a conservative but I’m not one of them (call me a libertarian if it makes it easier to classify). I’m pro choice, and pro gay marriage, and pro drug legalization, but I think the tenth amendment matters more than you do and I’m pro gun. That makes me a conservative, fine. But we agree on a fuck load of things, and I’m not the only one like me. There’s lots of people who think like I do. And they’re enough people they’re a margin of victory. If you’re ok with them voting for Donald Trump then, by all means, keep it up. But if you want to be a fucking adult about this shit and understand that different people value different things there’s a lot of dialogue to be had, and that language (on both sides) is how we got as fucked up as we have.

        • Domille
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          1010 months ago

          Funny thing is, liberals are getting armed. I am a die hard liberal, and we have several guns in the house.

          We are not all going to get shot like that lady with the rainbow flag in her shop… I mean, we’ll probably get shot anyway, but at least we could fight back. And who knows, maybe just seeing that we are armed will dissuade the POSs that want to try.

          • @elscallr@lemmy.world
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            10 months ago

            I love that, honestly. I have lots of liberal friends, and I encourage firearm ownership among them.

            • ijeff
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              610 months ago

              What are the benefits of owning a fireman? Does it impact your home insurance rates or likelihood of total loss in case of a fire?

              • @elscallr@lemmy.world
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                210 months ago

                No and no. I own the firearm because I like to shoot and I want to have a firearm. I don’t need a better reason to have it, in my opinion.

                • @Mdotaut801@lemmy.world
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                  210 months ago

                  God, shut the fuck up @elscallr. Go somewhere else. Seriously. You’re not wanted, you’re a fascist supporting piece of dirt.

                • ijeff
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                  110 months ago

                  I was just making a joke about your pre-edit typo of “fireman” :).

        • @elscallr@lemmy.world
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          210 months ago

          Say what you want, you aren’t going to get under my skin with nonsense. But I’m right, and I’m smarter than you are, especially about this, and you guys better get your shit together before you really cost the country.

          • @nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
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            2110 months ago

            I then enlighten us, libertarians generally want unrealistic deregulation in areas that result in poorer educational, health, and economic outcomes for groups of people that aren’t themselves.

            Cutting taxes while giving roads, power lines, municipal waste and water systems, schools and whatever else to a public private partnership or free market that can do “better” doesn’t work. It’s unrealistic and the reason libertarians are a joke.

            If you’re really a liberal who likes guns and disagrees with the left on a few other issues, get in line and welcome to the left. Where disorganized leaderless handwringing at least doesn’t lead to (as many) dead lgbt teens and (such exacerbated) globe ending pollution.

            • @elscallr@lemmy.world
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              The issues with which I disagree with the left are literally the role of the State. That’s what the original line was, and why I don’t call myself a liberal, and I think there’s common ground to be found or compromise to be had.

              • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                1610 months ago

                I think there’s common ground to be found or compromise to be had

                Ah yes, that’s why you’re saying things like

                I’m right, and I’m smarter than you are, especially about this, and you guys better get your shit together before you really cost the country.

                Those are the words of someone trying to work together and find compromises.

                  • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                    910 months ago

                    No, I assume you’re being pompus and trying really hard to act like you’re superior to everyone while offering nothing of substance to the conversation.

    • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      1010 months ago

      I’m fine with people being conservative. I’m not okay with people who are still supporting Trump and all the lies of the MAGA crowd.

    • Maeve
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      210 months ago

      Go far enough left and keep your guns.