‘You’re Telling Me in 2023, You Still Have a ’Droid?’ Why Teens Hate Android Phones / A recent survey of teens found that 87% have iPhones, and don’t plan to switch::undefined

  • @danielton@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Name one Android phone that gets 5 years of the latest OS, without rooting or installing a third party OS, followed by another couple years of security updates.

    • Coolcoder360
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      1311 months ago

      The Fairphone. Fairphone 2 was updated from Android 5 through 10 (5 years on the latest version) Fairphone 3 started at 9 and is currently on Android 13, that’s five years, and hasn’t had it’s last update yet.

      That’s two Android phones with at least 5 years on the latest OS, and Fairphone 2 got patch updates until this year, giving it support and updates from 2014 until 2023

      • @neonred@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        FairPhone 3 user here. It’s true, just updated to Android 13, came with 9.

        Additionally: Micro-SD, Dual-SIM, replaceable battery, can be repaired by myself at home, cheap/fair priced replacement parts and ethically sourced ressources.

        It. is. possible.

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          111 months ago

          Granted, Fairphone had to entirely do the BSP and entire update themselves because the SoC vendor doesn’t support A13.

          The real issue here isn’t with the OEMs it’s the chip set vendors not supporting Android as long.

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        11 months ago

        Sure, if you don’t care about being able to install new apps. Apple has many faults, but planned obsolescence is not one of them, especially since they OFFICIALLY support their devices 2-3 times as long as every single Android device out there.

        Also, every iOS update has added functionality. I feel like I get a new phone every fall.

          • @danielton@lemmy.world
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            411 months ago

            “Batterygate” was a PR issue. They should have been transparent that replacing the battery fixes it. Lithium ion batteries have a finite lifespan.

            MacBooks and AirPods are a right to repair issue, not planned obsolescence. Right to repair is something that the industry as a whole sucks at and it’s getting worse because every company is going down this path, not just Apple.

            Right to repair is my biggest issue with Apple. They need to do better at this, especially if they’re claiming to be so “green.” However, I’m not letting everybody else off the hook when one and two year old smartphones are rendered obsolete by the other OEMs through software.

            • @JTskulk@lemmy.world
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              411 months ago

              Maybe I want my phone to run the battery down quickly and get the full performance of my hardware. In typical Apple fashion, they’ve decided what’s best for the user without giving them a choice or explaining what’s happening or why.

        • @emogu@lemmy.world
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          11 months ago

          There’s no point in arguing with folks like that. They’re way more interested in platform wars than an honest argument. When they stick to the tired “planned obsolescence” lines from 10 years ago and try to argue that having a 2 year old phone that no longer gets security updates is a good thing, you know they jumped the shark years ago and are just posting in bad faith at this point.

            • @emogu@lemmy.world
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              311 months ago

              Believe me I get it :) It’s hard for me to resist too but sometimes there’s no winning. And winning isn’t even what we’re after usually. Just an honest back and forth about the pros and cons about the tech we all enjoy. It’s too bad that kind of discourse is so hard to come by these days :/

              • @danielton@lemmy.world
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                411 months ago

                My definition of “planned obsolescence” includes devices that either come with outdated software from the factory, or devices that stop getting OS updates after a year or two. To accuse Apple of planned obsolescence in this context is absurd to me when all of their competitors are objectively worse at supporting their phones.