• Samvega
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    Conspiracy theories are popular because people often prefer easy answers to reality. And “gays womens disableds bad” is a very easy answer, as it absolves [thanks maccentric] people that are not in those groups from blame.

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      Some actual conspiracies being true, the world burning and governments doing shit like dragnet surveillance doesn’t help either.

      We need to restore trust in governments, but for that, we need to get governments we can trust.

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        we need to get governments we can trust.

        Which isn’t going to happen if enough people vote along the lines of completely insane conspiracy theories. The candidate who says “I’m going to turn off the Jewish space lasers!!!” is almost certainly not going to be the one who makes the lives of normal people better through empathetic listening.

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            It really isn’t. Companies absolutely love using it as an excuse for why their shit product sold like shit, but these people are absolutely out there.

            Go spend 10 minutes on 4chan’s /v/ideogames board or /b/ - Random board for the most obvious and quick demonstration.


            Double edit: will respond to your response

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              I don’t base my view of society on fringe opinions esp if they are linked to corpo propaganda.

              I highly doubt most people share this sentiment. But normal healthy opinions are not provocative, they don’t get people going so online discussions is all about blowing up fringe opinions

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                While true, that is absolutely not what you were saying.

                People having fringe opinions are still people who exist. Your personal choices about how much they matter or don’t doesn’t materially effect their existence.

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                    No, you explicitly were saying that you had never heard anyone criticise a piece of media for including a minority.

                    Then you claimed that it was a strawman (further implying such people do not exist).

                    I pointed out that those people do exist, most obviously on 4chan, and that whether or not you think they matter has no bearing on whether or not they exist.

                    I never made any claims as to how important those opinions on 4chan were. I likewise did not say anything about them only existing there.

                    Pretending people with those opinions do not exist is provably wrong with minimal effort and intellectually dishonest. There’s no argument I’m making here. Nothing but me pointing out fact that you have decided doesn’t matter because some companies have used it as to excuse valid criticism.

                    We can all see your comment history in this chain man. Moving the goalposts like this is just sad.

                    Comments in case they are edited or deleted after being called out

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            There’s nothing in this conversation that you could even consider a strawman, yet, so I don’t know what you think that word means.

            However, I must just assume you aren’t part of a minority community if you haven’t been affected by people constantly bitching about how some piece of media is too woke now because it had a woman/gay person/trans person/person of colour existing in the content. Yes, they are a vocal minority. But it is by no means uncommon to encounter them.

            You may see substantially less of it on Lemmy since it is a predominantly left leaning space in general, and the left tends to be more accepting of non cishet white male presence

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              must just assume you aren’t part of a minority community if you haven’t been affected by people constantly bitching about how some piece of media is too woke now because it had a woman/gay person/trans person/person of colour existing in the content.

              You are “affaceted” by the shit people say online about video games?

              You do understand that at any given everything you can imagine is being said?

              Do you go out of your way to find this “content” to get “triggered”?

              People have a right to criticize video games and their developers, it is your right to make a judgement if that criticism is valid.

              I am not following how you are “affected” by online discussions lol

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                Eh, I gave you the benefit of the doubt but it doesn’t seem you’re here to have a good faith discussion.

                People have every right to criticise whatever they want. I never said they didn’t. Goodbye, troll.

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        It’s been taken off Wikipedia but there was a video a few years ago pointing out fox news only became profitable when they switched to the brown people bad and fear rhetoric. There was a theory name for it but it’s since been scrubbed from the internet. That’s the basis of conservativism.