Toward the end of the debate, Democratic vice presidential candidate Gov. Tim Walz asked Vance to affirm that Trump lost the last election. “Did he lose the 2020 election?” Walz asked.

“Tim, I’m focused on the future,” Vance replied, before pivoting to press Walz on censorship on social media.

That is a damning non-answer,” Walz said. “I’m pretty shocked by this. He lost the election. This is not a debate, it’s not anything anywhere other than in Donald Trump’s world.”

Walz noted that the reason that former Vice President Mike Pence — who was the target of “hang Mike Pence” chants from pro-Trump rioters who invaded the Capitol in 2021 — wasn’t on the debate stage is because he refused to overturn the election on Trump’s behalf.


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  • Samvega
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    1 month ago

    The dumb part here is that the American people and the American political environment and media has normalized all this.

    “The truth is not as important as immigrants, queers, and lesbian feminists with pink hair being put in their place. Authorities get to decide the truth, after all, that’s what they’re for.”

    A world based on ‘strong people’ doing what they want is already a world where the truth doesn’t matter. There is no more illogical outcome that can come from this, because trusting in an authoritarian leader is already completely illogical.