• Trump “will not give a penny” more to Ukraine if he becomes president, Hungary’s prime minister said.
  • That’s how Trump plans to end the war, Viktor Orbán, who met Trump at Mar-a-Lago, said.
  • The Trump campaign has not said whether the pair discussed Ukraine during the visit.
  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    To be more clear, if Trump manages to capture the presidency, I fully expect him to withdraw the US from NATO.

    And the US leaving NATO would be absolutely, categorically, inarguably, and apocalyptically stupid.

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        No, which is why it didn’t happen in his first term. Lots of people threw sand in the gears to slow that effort down.

        It’s just that if he gets in again, he’s openly said he’s going to fire a shitload of people all over the government and replace them with Trump loyalists (regardless of whether or not it’s legal), so it will probably actually happen if he captures the presidency again.

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      The money that runs this country wouldn’t stand for the level of disruption that’d cause to the ongoing grift to slow/stop. Same why we likely won’t ever crash out on the deficit, the rating downgrade scared them so bad the Republicans made a deal ASAP last time

      What’s terrifying is if the money decides to go in and join in the ‘creative destruction’ via another Business Plot and co-opts authoritarianism

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    This Trump, Orban, Putin triangle makes me think of the TV series The Handmaid’s Tale where the US slides into civil war and global isolation. Instead of the Sons Of Jacob you have Trump.

    Seriously, if Trump is besties with Orban and he beats Biden to the Whitehouse the US is heading for very dark times.

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      The entire World is in a dire position with climate change and all that. The USA turning inwards to settle it’s culture war will have global ramifications. It’s already happening

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    Should the title not be “Putin’s ally Trump to end the Ukraine war is to totally cut off funding, says Putin’s closes (hopefully soon out of the EU and NATO) ally”

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    Trump and the repubs are traitorous pieces of shit. I hope that orange turd has a massive heart attack as soon as possible, preferably before the election.

    Slava Ukraini!

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    Anyone who thinks the war will be over when Ukraine falls is a gullible idiot. The Ruskis will march straight to Moldova after the takeover of Ukraine.

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      Every non-NATO state on the border will be targeted and incorporated either directly or by being turned into a loyal authoritarian state a la Belarus.

      And if the US leaves NATO, that undermines confidence in NATO. The alliance will fall. At that point, either the EU will have to step in and supplant it – in which case the US will no longer be even be PART of the mightiest diplomatic alliance in the world, much less influential in it – or else there’s no reason to think Russian aggression will stop endlessly escalating until all-out war between nuclear powers is on the table.

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        Additionally, there is already a lot of discussion about nuclear proliferation. Some nations did not develop their own nuclear weapons because the US guaranteed for their security in exchange.

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      No no no you don’t understand. The war in the rest of Europe will be just beginning, but the war in Ukraine will be over.

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    Infamy.

    As the CIA Director pointed out, we need to give arms to Ukraine at the very least to get Russia to the negotiations table. Otherwise, all we are going to see is a lot of dead Ukrainians and Russians.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    In comments made to Hungarian news outlet M1, Orbán said Trump has detailed plans on how to end the war, Reuters reported.

    The Trump campaign’s statement about the meeting between Trump and Orbán didn’t mention Ukraine, saying only that the two men had discussed issues affecting their respective countries and the importance of strong border security.

    The campaign did not immediately respond to Business Insider’s request for comment, sent outside of working hours.

    Pro-Trump Republicans in Congress have also vocally opposed further aid to Ukraine, sending a bill with $60 billion earmarked for the country into limbo.

    He has also frequently expressed frustration with fellow NATO states and the scale of their contribution to collective defense.

    Trump has suggested that, under his leadership, the US would refuse to come to the aid of fellow NATO states that have not met the threshold, even saying that he would encourage Russia to attack them.


    The original article contains 403 words, the summary contains 152 words. Saved 62%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Lemmy.world is going to be really fucking surprised when the leftists don’t vote for either fascist candidate and you’re stuck with the orange fuhrer

    • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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      Lemmy.world is going to be really fucking surprised when the

      tankies in USA are fewer in numbers than these idiots expected.

      No one in their right mind thinks to abstain from voting to solve the looming threat of Christo-fascism.

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            Your us vs. them mentality is likely why Trump got elected in the first place. Remember all of the libs saying he had a 0% chance?

            I don’t want the fuhrer, but the current option isn’t getting my vote either, I am voting socialism in 2024.

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                Assuming that every voter who is not voting for your candidate is voting for the other candidate instead is such an american brain-worm I STG. You have more than 2 options.

                YOU get the fuhrer, I personally do not get the fuhrer. Passport is already rearing to go you dork.

                If you decide to avoid the popular vote of paid healthcare, taxing the 1%, and ending the MIC; and instead, vote for the “other” genocidal old man, let it rest on your conscience not mine.