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    Hey all, just a reminder:

    All the influx of shilling on Lemmy positing memes which are “short, quippy, and wrong” in IS’s terminology, leading ultimately to the conclusion “please don’t vote, it’s not worth it, it won’t make a difference, and Biden’s very very bad anyway” – it’s all for one simple reason: Voting works. It is one of the rare opportunities the normal-person population has to influence the people in charge, by some small degree. It’s not enough, but it’s also not to be wasted.

    The whole reason there’s all this investment of time and energy into manipulating people’s opinions is the same reason there’s so much energy towards manipulating their ability to vote in the first place: It’s worth the investment of energy and money that it takes to do that. Because voting has power.

    I think it’s clear that an honest accounting of how Biden has been doing puts him well above average for establishment Democrats. Is that good enough? Fuck no. I am about to vote in the primary in my state and I would love if someone would give me a realistic way to support someone younger than Biden, or to move the Democrats effectively towards the actual left.

    Also, all this blaming of Gaza specifically on Biden as if he was the one making the decisions about what the IDF should do on the ground, and talk about the election as if that one bad thing happening in the world undoes anything good he’s done or anything 10 times more genocidal that Trump might do – I actually really hope that that does succeed in breaking the US’s unconditional and war-criminal support for Israel that’s been going for 50+ years. Or at least moving it in the right direction. Let’s see.

    But again, take this kind of thing as the reminder that it should be: They are trying so hard to influence how you look at the election, because what you decide to do in the election matters, and they know that.

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        If it really was just “a” meme, I wouldn’t feel the need to say anything. The first 10 or 15 of them that I saw, I just kind of ignored without comment.

        Vote for Biden, I don’t care

        I mean… you clearly do.

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          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          I’ve said it plenty of times here but I’ll say it again. I hate Biden. I hate Trump. The party that aligns closest to me is the Dems. I’ll continue to bash them and hold their feet to the fire because politicians are not our friends. I’m far left. The Dems are closer to Trump than I am.

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            NOO you have to blindly support the dems, they can do nothing wrong. What are you a Trump supporter???

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      an honest accounting of how Biden has been doing puts him well above average for establishment Democrats. Is that good enough? Fuck no.

      oh no! careful or you’ll get labeled a trump supporter who doesn’t care about queer kids and wants the genocide in gaza to get worse

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      Fascism thrives on apathy.

      Why vote one day every 4 years when I can be a keyboard warrior all the time

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    Joe Biden isn’t “committing genocide,” nor is the US actively. We are however funding those (Isreal) who are.

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      It’s still complicity.

      Israel couldn’t do what they’re doing now without 75 years worth of zealous support.

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      Of course Biden isn’t directly responsible, but you should look at how much of Isreal’s military supplies, including bombs, come from the US.

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        As long as Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc., continue to suggest that Israel should be wiped off the map (not to mention act accordingly) then America will continue supplying Israel with the necessary tools to defend themselves against militant threats. Hamas and Hezbollah have fired missiles nonstop at heavily populated Isreali cities, and the only thing stopping massive destruction and loss of life to our Isreali allies are iron dome missile defense systems that the US has spent >$3,000,000,000 funding. If not for the US, we would be counting bodies in the hundreds of thousands across both Israel and Palestine.

        On top of that, all of this ignores the fact that there was YET ANOTHER viable ceasefire agreement that was rejected by Hamas today. At what point do we stop blaming the US for all of the world’s problems? The only people with the agency to stop the current fighting in Gaza are Hamas and Netenyahu’s government, and you all damn well know that.

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    Why does this Biden look like Mike Pence walking past the lingerie section of a department store?