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    Isn’t it weird that I can’t find any western media outlets reporting this? Super weird right, I just can’t figure out why.

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    A notorious, convicted terrorist said Palestine should resist by any means necessary.

    That was Nelson Mandela

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    cannot be equated with terrorism

    The only terrorists here are the “israeli” militants.

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    Hamas responded

    BREAKING: HAMAS OFFICIAL STATEMENT

    We appreciate the position expressed by the People’s Republic of China, during the public hearings held by the International Court of Justice, on the legal consequences of the occupation policies in the Palestinian Territory, and its affirmation of the legality of the occupied peoples’ pursuit of self-determination, by various means, including armed resistance, and the necessity not to confuse terrorism with And the armed struggle practiced by the Palestinian people against the Zionist occupation.

    We also value the positions of the countries participating in the sessions, which confirmed the widespread violations of international law practiced by the terrorist occupation entity against the Palestinian people and their occupied land, including massacres and genocide in the Gaza Strip, violations, killing, and expansion of settlement in the West Bank and Jerusalem, and work to bring about demographic changes in the Palestinian land. It aims to Judaize her and tamper with her identity.

    The terrorist occupation government’s boycott of the court sessions confirms once again its disregard for international institutions, and its policy of turning its back on international resolutions and commitments, which requires a clear position from the international community to end the rogue Zionist occupation, and to stop all its violations and crimes against our Palestinian people.

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    I thought China was on team Israel. Or maybe I’m confused because they’re helping Russia, and Russia is on team Israel? International politics is weird sometimes.

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    Ah, ole “Suppress hong Kong” china wants Palestine to have the right to armed resistance? Classic.

    To be clear, they should, but fuck China.

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        I’m not comparing the two, I’m simply stating that China doesn’t get to constantly violate human rights and then virtue signal like they actually care

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          violate human rights

          Source: The countries actually violating human rights with every incentive to throw bs accusations at their geopolitical rivals.

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            Not sure I understand? I’m assuming you’re referencing that I live in the US and we fund Israel, so yeah, I agree. I just found it kind’ve odd that that other guy didn’t realize multiple countries can be evil at the same time.

            I clearly wouldn’t want to listen to the US governments position on Israel, why should China be any different?

            Edit: ah, nice edit. Kinda surprised they allow tankies here.

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              I clearly wouldn’t want to listen to the US governments position on Israel, why should China be any different?

              Why not? The only countries accusing China of whatever they can are imperial core ones.

              surprised they allow tankies here

              Ah, the “woke” for leftists. Meaningless term, but it does sound cool ig

              Surprised they allow libs here.

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    I was wondering why so many comments with any criticism against China were being downvoted.

    Then I noticed which instance this was posted on.

    And then all those comments were removed by mods. Which only proved their points.

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      Welcome to Lemmy. It’s not quite as full of imperial core propaganda about everything that challenges its imperialism as Reddit is.

      Well, maybe except LW. Saw someone with a zionazi flag in their username there once.

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      The problem with your comparison with Taiwan is Taiwan is an island that is part of China but is currently controlled by an occupying force. This is agreed upon by almost all nations except for 12, the US also agrees on this btw.

      What the west is saying is that regardless of this, China does not have the right to an armed resistance against Taiwan even though they consider it part of China. They even agreed to arm Taiwan to prevent this attack from happening.

      So in terms of their statement on Palestine, this is actually consistent. The Palestinians have a right to kick out their occupiers, much like China has the right to kick out Taiwan’s occupiers.

      You view it differently, but as I stated before almost all members of the UN agree Taiwan is part of China.

      *Edit: On a personal level I don’t actually agree with this. I don’t want an invasion of Taiwan. I’m merely pointing out the “gotcha” you tried to set up doesn’t actually make sense. Instead it’s actually quite consistent with China’s position on Taiwan.

      *Edit 2: This is also why China seems petty and runs around making sure all nations that trade with China state there’s only one China. That’s what the whole Lithuania thing was about. China is stating if the majority of the UN believes in a 2 party solution, then the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. Since the majority of UN believes in a 1 party solution for Taiwan, then it’s the Taiwanese who are the occupiers and China has a right to defend itself.

      *Edit 3: Ironically, the same cannot be said for China’s consistency on the SCS. If you wanted a “gotcha” then China’s claim to the SCS is absurd. But that said, they never said it was OK for them to be in an armed conflict over that. So I guess take that how you will.

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          I talked about that. This is how China is keeping the messaging consistent. Again, according to most states in the UN, they want a 2 state solution for Palestine. That’s why China’s pushing an armed resistance solution for the Palestinians.

          Also, according to most states in the UN, they agree upon a 1 state solution for China and Taiwan. That’s why China’s pushing for an armed resistance solution against the Taiwanese occupiers.

          It doesn’t matter what states say internally or want internally. The whole point is consistency of message from the Chinese. Which is armed resistance is acceptable for occupations. Thus, no “oh what if it turned around on China?” It’s consistent messaging, there’s no turning around.

          NOW what you’re arguing is that the people don’t feel that way. Which means the west isn’t following it’s own “rule of law”. The problem with your argument is it makes clear that China is the one agreeing and following the UN rulings and the west is bending the “rules of law”. This is also why China cares so much about what they’re “hearing” as you stated and doesn’t really care about what they say internally. Which seems petty to you, but means China is actually obeying rule of law and the west is not.

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              Well tell that to your government. They are not saying that. And until most of the UN agrees with that, Taiwan can’t be considered a country.

              In fact, as a Taiwanese person, I’d prefer it if people like yourself didn’t just say platitudes like Taiwan is a country and then do literally nothing in your votes to make that happen. You disappoint me.

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              De facto it is. But according to the one China policy that the US subscribes to, it’s not. It’s also not a part of many UN organisations.

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      That fact that China is the one saying it has no impact on the validity of the argument.

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          So does the US. They are both imperialist nations with opposing interests. It’s not worth pointing out unless you are acknowledging how they both do it.

          Each is in the best position to lay out valid criticisms of the other. You just have to use media literacy to be able to discern valid points from propaganda.

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            No shit, they were discussing the possible geopolitical implications, not saying China is uniquely duplicitous. Please use your media literacy to not insert words into people’s mouths.

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        this is pattently false, and this statement right here is why the PRC is able to run circles around the west, while also publishing 5 year plans on exactly what they are going to do and how they are going to do it. The west just pretends they are lieing

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      There is no such as a “civilian” in an occupying colony. Half the population in “israel” are military conscripts, and most of the other half are fascists and settlers just the same; there are very few people in the colony actually plotting/fighting against the state.

      By your logic, the Viet Cong, which used the same tactics (attacking villages, taking hostages, using tunnels and guerilla warfare) and had the same goals (driving out foreign occupiers and reuniting their country) as Hamas, and the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, which (regardless of its intentions and goals) resulted in the deaths of thousands of Jews at the hands of the nazis similar to how Palestinians are being killed by “israel” now after the Oct 7 assault, were “terrorists” (whatever that even means).

      Hamas is currently the largest Palestinian armed resistance group (and was even directly elected by the people of Gaza at that) and deserves everyone’s support.