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        “don’t need to upgrade my phone every year”.

        And neither do I. Currently running a (horror!) 2018 flagship on DivestOS. It’s faster than anyone’s phone that I know. Everyone is surprised at how fast my phone is.

        Paid $80 for it 3 years ago.

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        Not the user you responded to but in my case nothing. My Xperia 10 III is still working well after three years so there no reason to buy a new one.

        Okay, I might be out of the OS support window so I might want to do see how AOSP does on my phone. But hardware-wise there’s really no reason to upgrade (and much less to a comically expensive device like in the video).

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          The next couple years will be interesting. They can’t just throw more processor speed at us and call it a day, so will be intriguing to see how they overcome that.

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            I am enjoying it. Though it doesnt work on VoLTE when on LineageOS so i will not be able to call/text excrpt via wifi after April when 2G is shut down.

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              I just read about them shutting down 2G here (the UK), it feels like the end of an era.

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                  That may be the case for you, but it’s still widely used for mobile card payment terminals, gps trackers, alarm systems and likely other applications that don’t require a lot of data but do require strong signal and reliability

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        Nothing. My current average phone life-time is 7 years, and the majority were second-hand already.

        I’ve spent under $400 a year on all my tech combined, including phones, tablets, desktops, laptops, accessories, toys, and anything else with a battery.

        If you get good tools, you don’t need to replace them.

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        He’s answering the question that’s been posed. Reading isn’t your strong suit…

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          His answer pre-supposes that literally everyone just bought a new phone. Which they haven’t. Thinking isn’t your strong suit…

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    There are so many reasons, but the main one is that they keep pushing their shitty Exynos cpus in Europe! My next phone is certainly not a Samsung just for this reason.

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      shitty Exynos cpus

      Funny how Exynos is shitty but when it’s rebranded as Google Tensor, it’s the strong heart of the best Android phones.

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        To be fair, I’ve only ever seen negative opinions about the Tensor chips and the majority of it stems from it being an Exynos derivative.

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          It is, and it’s the reason Pixel 6 and 7 series had so many issues with poor battery life and weak modem. Although it appears that the third generation Tensor CPUs in Pixel 8 have major improvements on both of these pain points.

          Still, that probably brings Pixel 8 only to the cheap-ish midrange standard when it comes to cell signal, as the Pixel 7 phones were atrocious and 6s were apparently even worse.

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      What phone are you currently using? Do you find there’s anything you can’t do at such a price point?

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          I have a Pixel 4a, and while not getting any more updates can be a dealbreaker, I think it’s theoretically still fine for me. It does everything I need. Write text messages to friends, surf the web, connect to online services, take pictures at events. It has a nice screen and I have access to custom roms for privacy. What would be a reason for me to spend $1200 and upgrade except for ‘it has better specs’? I think I’d rather use the $1200 to upgrade my computer and there’s still enough money left to buy a VR headset or other random stuff. I think that’s a valid reason to just spend $400 for a new phone or not get a new phone at all until the old one breaks.

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            I think the finance model for phones kinda makes them such an easy purchase in a way in which you can’t do on PC.

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              Idk. You mean effectly getting them on a credit that is tied into the contract? Most electronics stores around here also offer expensive products like computers and laptops on a loan. There sometimes is a price tag 1200€ or 60€ a month (with their partner company that hands out loans.) You can even rent a Roomba, pay monthly and get the newer model after 2 years.

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                Yeah, but with a Roomba, it’s not tied to a utility. You’re never going to NEED it, whereas with a phone, you need it to live these days, for better or worse.

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                  Well, I’d argue you need some means to clean your house, or it’ll be very gross after a few months. And while you don’t need a $1200 vacuum robot for that, you also don’t need a $1200 phone. It’s kind if a similar situation.

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    Cuz you can get a Pixel 7a for $350-400. Which is arguably a better phone. But inarguably a better value.

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      Just out of curiosity, if you could recommend a phone to a relative. Let’s say young enough to be on all the socials, but old enough to not need the newest flagship, what would you recommend? I’m guessing the 7 or 7a?

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      I hammer on a phone. Run an FTP server at home to copy files sometimes, have multiple sync tools running, always manually copying files to/from network devices, run RDP/SSH sessions often. The screen is rarely off.

      I do fine with phones that cost $100 used. 2 year old flagships are a great value. If they work for me, the average user would have no trouble with one.

      Switch to Graphene/Lineage/Divest, and people think it’s a new flagship.

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        For sure on switching to a custom OS like you said. It makes them run so much smoother and faster than stock at least on Graphene for sure

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        Unlocked, brand new direct from the Google Store. They emailed me a coupon code for being on the Google Assistant mailing list that gave me an extra $150 off, and it stacked with a $100 discount they were already running (so $250 off total). I’m a self-admitted headphone jack enthusiast, but the price was just too good to pass up.

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      Other than the battery life, the Pixels are great long term phone investments.

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    once i got my a54 i honestly don’t know why i ever went with the s series

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        for me it’s basically as decent as my old s series but half the price; the camera is slightly worse but for what i use it for it’s not bad.

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          You know what I find weird, that there’s not a universal standard for front facing cameras. I can kinda forgive them making the back cameras not as good, but everyone needs a front facing one.

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    I’m still on my iPhone 7 and still haven’t found a good enough reason to upgrade. All my productivity work is done on my PC since I work from home. And I have a camera for photos. I’d rather use that money to buy Apple shares.

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    in answer to your question Marcus, because I paid attention in economics class and understand the concept of opportunity cost.

    To paint the full picture, it’s $2,399 to pre order it in the country I live in (Australia).

    The average wage in australia is 90k pretax, approx 70k post tax

    2399 is mortgage payments, food or transportation.

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      Stateside here, and I agree that price is insane. Also, I like to root my phones , and Samsung makes that hard. that said, I am writing this on my tab s8 with a stylus. people forget that Saving for real needs takes priority! retirement is not free, after all.

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    I enjoy reading about the S24 Ultra for showing what could be possible in a smartphone. Buying one for personal use is another matter entirely.