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Bro, there’s not an ounce of hyperbole here. Crazy…
Jesus, that’s every bit as bad as it sounds.
But what happens if their family has no ancestors from Spain?
Then they’re indigenous and you know what Americans do with them.
There is some hyperbole - that’s an “and” not an “or”. So the law wouldn’t define anyone of Hispanic descent as a terrorist, just like it doesn’t define non-hispanic convicted gang members as terrorists.
Still completely fucked up and racist, but the article title is slight hyperbole. And the politician is a total shitbag.
If there are people that would fall into points 2 and 3 but are in non-Hispanic gangs and because of that alone they aren’t labeled as terrorists in the same way, how would this be constitutional? Not that the politicians proposing it care, but it seems like it would be struck down, or they would have to amend it to remove that sort of language. Maybe if they were claiming it was combating Mexican cartels or other criminal foreign nationals with a qualifier about nation of origin, they could try to argue that wasn’t racist.
Edit: Ah I didn’t read the article, as another commenter pointed out:
He said: “I apologize for using the word Hispanic, but I was not wrong. Again, these are Hispanic. Reality is they are Hispanic. There’s nothing to be ashamed with.”
Humphrey said he will go back to the bill and amend the language from “Hispanic” to “undocumented here illegally, or something like that”.
holy sweet tapdancing Christ
I thought it was clickbaity exaggeration.
He said: “I apologize for using the word Hispanic, but I was not wrong. Again, these are Hispanic. Reality is they are Hispanic. There’s nothing to be ashamed with.”
Humphrey said he will go back to the bill and amend the language from “Hispanic” to “undocumented here illegally, or something like that”.
Direct extract from the S 894 US congress bill to address domestic terrorism.
“ Congress finds the following:
(1) White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States. “
Illegal immigrants are less than half as likely to commit a crime as American citizens. https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2014704117
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I agree that there is a significant subset of Americans that are lost and can’t be fixed. But there are at least some that are still open to reason and facts. That’s who we have to focus on to negate the divisive social and MSM machine.
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So much for Republicans being “tough on crime,” this law would be more effective (for the purpose of fighting street crime) if they just removed the whole racist bullshit. Of course, that’s not what this law is intended to do. This is some stupid political game where Republicans present a bill that is “intended” to fight street crime. Every sane person and media establishment will see and criticise it for being racist, which it is. Then Republicans and Fox can yell about how those darn woke communists “don’t care about the community” and “aren’t tough on crime.” Also did I mention it’s hella racist? Because it’s hella racist.
So they’re going full Nazi, huh?
Is that even news at this point?
I thought this was BS, because no way, right?
NEW LAW A new section of law to be codified in the Oklahoma Statutes as Section 1268.9 of Title 21, unless there is created a duplication in numbering, reads as follows:
Any person who:
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Is of Hispanic descent living within the state of Oklahoma;
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Is a member of a criminal street gang as such term is defined in subsection F of Section 856 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes; and
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Has been convicted of a gang-related offense enumerated in paragraphs one (1) through sixteen (16) of subsection F of Section 856 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes, Req. No. 8450
shall be deemed to have committed an act of terrorism as such term is defined in Section 1268.1 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes. Any and all property, including real estate and personal property, conveyances, including aircraft, vehicles or vessels, monies, coins and currency, or other instrumentality used or intended to be used, in any manner or part, by said person shall be subject to forfeiture as provided in Section 1738 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes.
Funny how they never go after the white gang member whom are actually terrorists.
If they did then they would put a target on their own backs. Can’t have that now can we.
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It’s bad on its face, but to make it even worse: AFAICT, the definition would apply post-hoc, so anyone who has had such a conviction ever would be liable to have their property seized, even if they weren’t doing anything wrong today. Made a mistake in 1998? Terrorist.
This used to be satire…
@iliotropio @throws_lemy Laughing instead of crying…
It’s a terrible bill, but it only defines Hispanics as terrorists if they’re also a gang member who’s been convicted of a gang offense. Shitty to single them out this way, but no it doesn’t label any Hispanic person as a terrorist.
There is zero need for him to bring race into this at all. Or even immigration status. The fact that he equates Hispanics as terrorists and feels it’s appropriate to change it to “illegals” is profoundly telling of his views.
Terrorism is already narrowly defined within legal and law enforcement contexts.
This guy is a racist prick who should probably be treated as a terrorist, rather than the people he’s absolutely racially profiling
Yes, like I said the bill is terrible. But the headline is wrong. The bill does not define someone as a terrorist just for being Hispanic.
SECTION 1. NEW LAW A new section of law to be codified in the Oklahoma Statutes as Section 1268.9 of Title 21, unless there is created a duplication in numbering, reads as follows: Any person who:
- Is of Hispanic descent living within the state of Oklahoma;
- Is a member of a criminal street gang as such term is defined in subsection F of Section 856 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes; and
- Has been convicted of a gang-related offense enumerated in paragraphs one (1) through sixteen (16) of subsection F of Section 856 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statute
I read the law. under this proposed law, any one who is a member of a gang, and has been convicted of gang crimes is not a terrorist, but any such person who also happens to be Hispanic Is a terrorist.
When called out for it… he didn’t apologize, but then proceeded to suggest “illegals” as an alternative term, as if Hispanics are illegals. This asshole is so fucking racist, he doesn’t understand what the issue is.
What the actual fuck is wrong with this country? Him and the dumbshits that elected him need to face some actual adversity in life. Pathetic excuses for humans or americans.
But it does if two people, one white and one Hispanic, meet the other two criteria. Then one is not a terrorist and one is simply because they are Hispanic.
You’re not wrong. The headline’s misrepresentation is needlessly distracting. The bill is still racist; why specify ancestry at all?
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Whites who join such gangs are a-ok though
They get snazzy uniforms and patrol vehicles too.
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The title doesn’t say “all” or “any” Hispanic person, because it conveys the main point which is that the law labels only Hispanic people, and not other people, as terrorists. The additional gang affiliation is not nearly as important as the racist basis of only applying the label to Hispanic people.
That’s really not any better. It’s still punishing people for their ethnicity.
Nope. If it did it would have included both lines together. It literally lables anyone Hispanic as being a terrorist right from the get go.
There’s an “and” in the second statement. It requires all three to be true.
Still a horrible racist law. If they want gangs to be labeled terrorists, just drop the Hispanic requirement and go after all of them.
You’re correct, however, by including “Hispanic” as a qualifier, excludes convicted gangbangers who are not Hispanic.
While it is true to say that the law doesn’t include all Hispanics… it’s also true to say it doesn’t apply to white gang members or any other. Which means that while Hispanic gang member are terrorists, non-Hispanic are not terrorists, just …gang members…
It’s fucking racist.
Shouldn’t the “and” be in the first statement as well to link them all together?
Any person who is of Hispanic *and
member of a gang *and
Convicted of yada yada yada.
The way it is written doesn’t link the first two together. It’s its own statement of law.
That’s what the semicolons are for. It’s like saying “red, white, and blue”. You don’t need to say “red and white and blue”.
Except in this country where the courts can’t read and just makes up whatever it wants. Easier to do the less explicit things are.
No, the bill clearly has a three part definition of a terrorist. One part is race related, but the other two that must be satisfied are about gang activity.
The law that it has 3 requirements. Being Hispanic is a strange requirement but they are probably trying to target native Americans.
They should read the la…they should learn more about reading first. Once they know how to read, then read the laws they proposed.
JJ is a crazy man!!
