• DavidGarcia@feddit.nl
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    I gotta be honest, Microsoft did a great job with the UX of their 365 ecosystem. It’s great as a user, but as an administrator or small business it is a nightmare.

    But in a large corpo setting, it works really well.

    The wider Linux community could learn a lot from it.

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      What are you talking about? It’s horrible from a users perspective. I never know where I am saving anything

      I only use Windows at work (because I have to). The thing that drives me fucking nuts, as an advanced computer user in general, is how God damned unintuitive the 365 Office,OneDrive, and File explorer integration is.

      I have no idea where I am saving stuff half the time(or more accurately have to change it each time because the defaults are dumb). I don’t want it in my OneDrive downloads folder or OneDrive documents folder. I want it in my fucking laptop download folder or local documents folder.

      Then Teams is saving stuff in SharePoint in the background, permissions are annoying AF. At least they’ll flag that a recipient of an email attachment or imbedded url doesn’t have access. So that’s nice I guess.

      Oh, then sometimes I’m prompted to save a copy of a shared document, but that’s different from “download a copy”. If you save a copy it just makes a new shared copy for everyone in the SharePoint site.

      I feel like a boomer when I work with MS now. Maybe it’s all enterprise settings for where I work and maybe it’s not MS’s fault but hot damn I am so much less productive than if I just used Gsuite, only office, on Mac or .

      Maybe I just need to spend a week taking training classes on these products. But who tf has time for that when you have your actual job to do. So I guess that really sums up Microsoft for me: it’s in the way and slowing me down.

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        I don’t know, I think UX has vastly improved since I started using it in 2008 and is still improving every year. It’s just all these cloud and communication features we’re behind on.

        It would be cool to have something P2P, like Syncthing and Tox, integrated into all mainstream distros for sync and communacation Then you have some sort of a single sign-on that connects you to all your devices and people you want to communicate with. Instead of Microsoft login you have a built in pw manager that automatically creates and stores (and syncs) accounts for you and so on.

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      As someone who has to use office 365 for my university, this is not true it is terrible I avoid it whenever I can

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      As an IT guy, I hate everything about the OneDrive setup. Using it, dealing with users that have to use it, it’s a lot.

      I like AD and the management interfaces, that’s about where Microsoft’s Enterprise offerings cease to be helpful to me.

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      It’s pretty easy for me to use Linux at work thanks to VMs. But if you want to also avoid using windows or all the other Microsoft 365 stuff, that’s more difficult.

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        From personal experience working in a Microsoft ecosystem, it’s mostly a matter of being able to hire the right people.

        There is a near-infinite source of IT workers that have some expertise with Microsoft software and services. And those kinds of numbers simply don’t exist for the Linux world, especially with all the different configurations out there.

        Medium-sized organizations have to employ a strategy of throwing enough idiots at a problem in order to keep things running. This also creates some of the issues they need the idiots for because no one has detailed knowledge of how things work.

        My attempts at proposing a linux-based application server have been met with all sorts of “but our domain policy”, “we can’t guarantee continuity”, “none of my people know how to admin this stuff” type responses.

        It definitely is a matter of mindset, but there is also a big commitment to make if switching systems to Linux. And that is a choice managers will only make if the benefits are clearly illustrated in a businesscase.

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          Medium-sized organizations have to employ a strategy of throwing enough idiots at a problem in order to keep things running.

          Lol 🤣, that’s one way to say it 😂.

          And I meant more as in computers for personal use. I completely get why most things are MS centered in the workplace, and that’s fine. If the workflow requires it, there is nothing wrong with that.