• blahsay@lemmy.world
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    I’m not sure if Hamas has noticed but they’re not exactly winning this war.

    At this point they’re obviously just trying to get as many Palestinians killed as possible for propaganda.

    The poor Palestinians have a government that’s actively trying to get them killed.

    If Hamas cared even an iota for their people they’d surrender and end the war.

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      If Hamas cared even an iota for their people they’d surrender and end the war.

      Have you seen what happened to parts of Gaza occupied by the IDF?

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        I don’t really understand their position. Surely the option that leads to least Palestinian deaths would be something they want? It’s honestly just weird.

        Some of you Palestinians may die, but it’s a sacrifice Hamas is willing to make

        😞

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        That user is probably one of the biggest sources of Israeli disinformation on this site. Everyone is just tired of their shit.

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    Sadly israel directly kidnapped many of the Palestinian hostages again after releasing them.

    The IDF kidnapped almost as many hostages as they released during the truce. Now more. And they torture their hostages whereas Hamas doesn’t. And israel violated the truce at the start of it by shooting civilians returning north.

    It’s sad that the IDF are such an untrustworthy terrorist organization.

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        You have to hand it to them - lying that unashamedly is impressive! Hamas doesn’t torture…yeesh.

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        If only every single hostage released by Hamas didn’t prove my point am I right?

        And every single hostage released by IDF terrorists says they were tortured, including women and children being starved, beaten to broken bones, threatened with rape, tear gassed in their cells for three days straight and being denied any medical care causing many to die am I right? (and that’s just a few examples of IDF terrorist crimes)

        ;)

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      And they torture their hostages whereas Hamas doesn’t

      Nah, they’ll just rape their hostages to death

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      The Palestinian prisoners are not hostages. Comparing random civilians, elderly, and babies to convicted terrorists is Hamas level propaganda.

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        You’re disgusting. Just to clear the rest up, there are 1200 who are in “administrative detention”, which is where they pick up a random Palestinian off the street and put them in prison. And in people who are charged, they’re charged by a military court with a 95% conviction rate where the most common charge is throwing stones.

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          That is the same guilty rate as Israel’s internal convictions and is caused by police not bothering with anything that is not an easy win.

          The administrative detention also has judicial checks and limitations. Also, these are not random people picked off the streets, these are terrorists or would be terrorists where, for the most part, the evidence for detaining them is too sensitive from intelligence point of view to share in a trial.

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          Detaining 15 year old children that stab civilians is also a valid way of describing the reality. Also, according to UN and Al Jazeera, a 17 year old self proclaimed Hamas fighter that tries to kill Israeli civilians with a AK is a child. Somehow you take it to mean that he is innocent.

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        If the Palestinian prisoners were convicted terrorists, then why did Israel release them? 🤔

        https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2023/12/1/photos-palestinians-celebrate-release-of-another-batch-of-prisoners

        “The prisoners – including 23 children and seven women – were released hours after eight Israeli captives were freed by Hamas.”

        23 kids and seven women… yeah, sounds like a bunch of die hard radicals!

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          You’re right, there are only security cameras of a few of these children running around stabbing civilians. I guess Al Jazeera forgot to mention that to you.

  • ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world
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    Israel can’t defeat Hamas without catching them in a lethal, collaterally damaging strike on Qatar. The Holocaust of Gaza will continue until morale improves.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Hamas, the group which controls the Gaza Strip, has ruled out any more hostage releases until Israel agrees to a “full cessation of aggression”.

    Fighting continues in Gaza, with Israel bombarding the north and south of the territory and Hamas firing rockets at Tel Aviv.

    Among the Palestinians reported killed were the director of the police station in the southern city of Khan Younis and a daughter of the head of the Gaza health ministry.

    The week-long truce this month brought an increased flow of aid into Gaza, where the UN has warned that the population is at risk of famine if the war between Israel and Hamas continues.

    In a statement, Hamas said: “There is a Palestinian national decision that there should be no talk about prisoners or exchange deals except after a full cessation of aggression.”

    Early on Friday, the territory’s Hamas-run health ministry put the overall death toll there since 7 October at 20,057, including at least 8,000 children and 6,200 women.


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