I support eating the rich; one bite at a time.
In french a bite is a…, well this sentence is funny to me.
Tiny bite Elon
I support eliminating billionaires.
I’m not having kids because billionaires have bribed, lobbied, and misinformed this country, and by extension the world, to the brink of ruin
Yeah but they are still having kids lol that’s just what they want
Why report on that guy’s opinions as if they matter? He’s rich, not a voting rights expert.
He’s a fascist, too, which people conveniently ignore because he’s rich and some of it might rub off on them.
For the same reason the opinion of someone like Rupert Murdoch matters. Its not about their viewpoint directly as an individual, its the fact they control massive platforms that can and do sway public opinions.
In murdochs case he’s had an influential impact on British politics over the last 40 years and has used his media empire to act as a king maker.
Musk isn’t as savvy or as intelligent as Murdoch but that doesn’t mean is influential position should be ignored.
I don’t like Elon Musk, but can you explain what makes him a fascist? I feel like people are really throwing that term around a lot and it’s kind of concerning.
I think eliminating voting rights for citizens without children is a fascist policy. Fascism is about enforcing a “correct” or “natural” hierarchy in society. Historically this has usually been about race, but has also included other factors (for example, disabled people were the first group targeted for extermination by the Nazis). For some of us, not having kids is a choice (and imo a valid one that shouldn’t be punished by the state). But this sounds like an easy way to discriminate against same-sex couples, and all fascist systems have a history of doing that.
Did Elon say whether I can vote if I adopt a kid?
Do I get more votes with more kids?
Also, if I had a kid and it died of cancer, would I also lose my voting rights?
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It’s a fair question, but you’re probably getting downvoted because you “feel like people are really throwing that term around a lot and it’s kind of concerning”. People are throwing the term around a lot because of all the fascism, and the fact that you find the term more concerning than the actual fascism is a bad look.
I personally find Ur-Fascism by Umberto Eco a good read. Fascism is really hard to pin down because it’s quite a wide category due to the different tendencies in history.
The War on Everyone by Robert Evans is another good one for our current situation, he draws and builds from Ecos definition there
crazy that this guy used to be the billionaire that wanted to use solar power and electric cars to make an impact against climate change, now he’s half Murdoch, half Hitler
I disagree with his fundamental premise that people with children can see the interests of society better.
I don’t have children, but I have heard from every possible source that once you have children they become your world.
How is a person expected to reason clearly about the interest of millions of people when they are running an ancient biological program focused on the interests of a tiny family unit?
edit: I once saw the argument that having family doens’t make you a better person. Having family makes you a ruthless user and taker on behalf of your family. Most of the stories you hear of people giving in to corruption, happen because those people can’t afford to lose their jobs, because they have mouths to feed. Once you have kids, you must choose whether you value your kids over your civic responsibility, or vice-versa.
People with children won’t have the time to research issues too deeply, and they will be sleep deprived for several years.
They make better sheep.
why republicans always find a way to deny voting for some random group?
Is this guy literally having a psychosis?
His actions lately (I say lately, loosely) have been absolutely batshit bonkers.
I’m enjoying the show none the less
Welcome to the rise of aggressively pro-natalism billionaires, because it’s 2023 and we’re not imploding fast enough.
Remember, you won’t have a seat on the transport to Mars. And if you ever get there, it will be to work the mines.
I feel like these people are using the Handmaids Tale as a guide at this point…
Just stop giving this idiot attention, it’s what he gets off on. You’re all getting him off. If that’s what you’re into, fine but, if it’s not, you’re being taken advantage of.
Talk about unalienable rights to life and liberty
Most of the rights after the first 10 are 100% alienable in a naturalist sense. A man in the jungle will speak freely and associate voluntarily… A man in the jungle has a right to not be lorded over for more than 8 years by one individual (a la 25A, for instance)…? The verbiage becomes meaningless.
The US Bill of Rights only includes the first 10 amendments, so the 25A isn’t included. It also doesn’t itself contain “unalienable”, that being only in the Declaration of Independence, and in the discussions around the proposal of the amendments.
While the whole unalienable rights of all people that we’re just stating as one country rather seems like Enlightenment ridiculousness and extremely pretentious, and I’ve certainly seen interpretations that are extremely hegemonic, such as arguing that the US Bill of Rights applies to all countries, it doesn’t include later amendments.
A man of civics :] Very cool.
I agree with pretentiousness-- They were trying really hard. By and large I like that, the big ideals. The unavoidable glaring problem is the paradox of freedom AND governance. Like, even lawless pirates begged the question; ‘What do we do with a drunken sailor?’. Its not trivial.
Uh if a jungle cat wants you to shut the fuck up then your inalienable right to free speech won’t protect you lol
Eh, I could try my primal scream :] Even empty-handed, I’d fight. And you would too!
Sure! But if you have to fight for a right it’s not really inalienable, is it?
But fighting IS the right ;] Even struggling with in handcuffs is envoking your animal nature.
And if they shoot you for resisting arrest you won’t be struggling much after that.
Nothing is inalienable.
Yes, I can be killed. And, sure, inanimate objects and the deceased do not have rights. However it would still be questionable as to why a restrained person was shot :p Further, our mortality does not mean that we dont have rights, lol. This is objectively true as you will die yet you have inalienable rights.
Judging by how he treats his wives, he probably even wants to repeal women’s right to vote.
Immediately read this headline and thought “Next, only married people should be having kids so realistically only the husband needs to vote since his wife should align with him”. Followed by some good ol SA-style apartheid for the minorities.
“Turns out non-landowners don’t have much stake in the future”
To think that not so long ago, this authoritarian, grifting man-child was hailed as the real-life Tony Stark. If the mask slips any further, even his remaining fanboys are going to find it difficult to defend him.
He is kinda like that though, but more like Tony from the beginning of the first movie.
“What if?” Tony where he goes from a decent guy to piece of shit instead of the other way around.
Musk was never a decent guy.
I don’t think he has near as many fanboys as the musk circlejerkers on reddit always made it out to seem. I barely ever see anyone genuinely fanboy him anymore, at most many are neutral to him while still thinking he’s an idiot.
I think reddit (and social media in general) just has a habit of giving megaphones to “the other side”, no matter how small it actually is, so they can have someone to appear to argue against so it doesn’t look like they’re yelling at a wall.
Not enough people point out he has bot farms at this disposal.
Old news, predates Twitter. His popularity is wildly over estimated. It’s inflated. It’s fake. Always was meme.
I’m a big fan of SpaceX. I think they are doing amazing things that will make space allot more accessible. That being said he’s definitely a douche.
SpaceX is successful because he lets Gwynne Shotwell take charge and run the company while he soaks up the praise. And even then, SpaceX has big problems. When Starship destroyed its launchpad (rumored to be due to Musk’s interference, big surprise), it sent debris everywhere, particulate matter across a wildlife preserve and started a brush fire there. It also reached a nearby town. It was an environmental disaster and it’s barely been discussed.
I mean, he’s not the one designing the rockets, building the pads, etc. so I feel the same way. Elon is just “the money guy”
People forget a huge side of this as well. It’s not just being financial able to have kids but physically able. More and more people now days are seeking fertility treatment and having fertility issues. According to elon, those people would not have the right to vote.
People who go to college and then university and then intern somewhere to get a junior position and then a senior position are in their mid 30s when they’re in a stable enough position to plan for kids.
By contrast, a lot of people who are happy with a high school degree have kids before they’re 20.
This is not a value judgment, but separating people by when they’re having kids segments the population of into very distinct strata.
It’s not hard to guess why a billionaire who’s running a right-wing social media platform would prefer a certain demographic.
We waited until our 30s to have a child for a lot of reasons, and I’m glad we did it. We were more financially secure and had sowed our wild oats, so we were also not likely to go out and party. Elon was already financially secure when he had is first child. He has no idea how much a child costs in terms of money and in terms of what sort of life you want to live for most people.
Not surprising anymore. The guy (like his father) has a insane breeding fetish. And never forget that his father groomed his own adopted daughter (that he know since she was a child) and has two kids with her 🤮.
Why oh why do we care what this cuck says? He’s not even a citizen.
We definitely shouldn’t care what he says; He’s probably just begging for attention. But he is a US citizen. A quick search shows he became one in 2002.
I meant to say not born here so he can’t run for president. Clearly wasn’t thinking when I typed it out. Anywho, thank you for the correction.
look how “being born in the USofA” as a prerequisite to being a USofA president turned out…
Who would have the power to stop Elon Musk from running for President?
Presidents are also not supposed to be actively running their businesses while also being President. But Trump brazenly didn’t even pretend to not be running his companies while in office. Nobody could stop him.
So if Elon Musk was like “I’m running for President” at what point does someone have the power to stop him? Who has the power to stop him from taking the office if he wins? It seems like a lot of those things we learned were impervious norms were really just impotent words that have no actual enforcement system behind them. And Republicans love breaking such norms.
I’ll also point out that according to rightwing folklore, we already had an illegitimate African president who served two terms. I think Republicans would run Elon just to troll.
It’s weird that America still discriminates against its citizens based on the country of their birth, something they can’t control.
Countries in the Americas are actually pretty unique in that most of them follow jus soli, where citizenship is granted just by being born in that country. The “old world” mostly uses jus sanguinis where citizenship is determined by family lineage, although some countries grant exceptions.
There’s a lot to be said about the treatment of immigrants in various communities throughout many of these countries, but the issue you’re raising here seems to be a consequence of a pretty decent policy.
Än immigrant who is an American citizen but wasn’t born in America can’t be president. That is the discrimination I’m talking about.
I’m not sure how much that bothers me
