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Abstain = We’re against a cease fire but we don’t really want to say that out loud, people might think we’re horrible…
I was thinking more: We’re for a cease fire but we’re afraid America might be salty about it,
It’s both at the same time. This conflict has caused populations of the yellow countries to be divided more than ever before.
This has caused many politicians to slip up in their first reactions, in which they declared unconditional support for Israel after the attacks by Hamas.
Even at that point more people than they anticipated took the stance that “self defence” should not automatically include fighting beyond your own borders and there was outrage. People felt their heads of state needed to represent ALL citizens, which means full support for the Israeli cause was unacceptable.
This has put several world leaders in an awkward position where they have to carefully balance protecting human rights within Gaza and simultaneously condemning Hamas as a terrorist organization. Abstaining from voting for a ceasefire is a direct result of that. Voting either way might open up new discussion with supporters of either side.
This is very obviously the cowardly way out and we as a people need to push for a resolution to this conflict that is morally just and protects human rights on both sides.
While Germany abstained it was purely for economic reasons in not enraging the “global south” that sees the imperialist regime brutalizing the occupied territories, like the European countries did in so many countries before.
In Germany now people without german citizenship are demanded to sign a paper pledging support to Israel or otherwise facing repercussions like deportation.
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Germany and Apartheid name a better combination.
Wait is this actually true?
Should just go for the simple option of “doesn’t concern us” and leave it at that
I remember that at least the Finnish reason for abstaining is that Hamas was not mentioned nor their attack condemned in any way in the cease fire resolution. Canada started a petition to change the wording of the resolution and most countries who abstained voted for this.
This is the same bullshit excuse America used to veto the first ceasefire.
Then when a bill with condemnation was introduced America still vetoed it.
It’s just a pretentious troll. Every country that abstained is owned by the israeli lobby. That said the veto is far worse.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231018-us-vetoes-un-resolution-on-israel-hamas-war
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I don’t think you know what “abstain” means
Still a million times better than vetoing it. We should be ashamed here in the US…
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Can’t believe PNG voted against, there’s no transparency in it.
I hate you. Take your upvote
I needed your reply to “get” their comment.
I still don’t get it…
This map will go down in the history books when they will speak about the Palestinian Genocide.
Future generations will ask how we let that happen.
The current generation isn’t asking lots of questions about Uigurs, Armenians, etc.
So x for doubt
America isn’t genociding Uyghurs though. Everyone thought the West was above this shit by now with all the decades of talk about equality.
Now everyone has to come to terms that the West is stil on 1940’s Ubermensch genocide level of moral standards.
America isn’t genociding anyone right now.
Also, America has been rather ruthless in its external policies since WWII. See Vietnam for example.
Also, the USA aren’t the entire West.
This is some crazy genocide denial.
It’s like denying the holocaust when the internet exists and videos of it are out there and you can see it happening right in front of your eyes.
Europe is aiding in the genocide as well, especially Germany, the Netherlands and the UK. Though you are right there are still countries like Ireland, Spain and Belgium that at least call for ceasefire.
This is some crazy genocide denial.
What a rubbish take
How many people have the US killed in Palestine? Because if the answer is zero then they aren’t committing genocide.
Same for Germany, the Netherlands, and the UK.
“If you give bombs and guns to Hitler, are you really committing genocide?”
Yes.
No
The map looks very similar to others during the cold war (US supporting apartheid, a variety of dictatorships and colonial movements and genocidal regimes) yet, you don’t really see anyone asking how the US people let that happen.
Wherein ‘abstained’ = ‘we want to veto it but fear the political backlash so we’ll leave it to the US’
Well, in fact only the 5 permanent members can veto a decision…
Ah.
I don’t doubt for a second that Biden isn’t trying to get a second ceasefire going, but at the same time, this vote is hypocritical. There’s no denying that.
I don’t believe that the US is interested in a ceasefire aside from appearance necessary to keep the muslim world and the muslims in the US and Europe from revolting against the injustice.
The US always worked to destabilize the Middle East and with Israel being armed to its teeth and countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt happy to sell out, this is perfect to sow division, despair and violence.
You don’t doubt Genocide Joe, the guy single handedly funding the genocide, announcing his full support for the genocide, and vetoing the stopping of the genocide…
about wanting to stop the genocide?
What?
I hope it’s a “See, we’ve got your back, now let’s make our own ceasefire” kind of play
Slightly off-topic, but TIL Croatia in Croatian is Hrvatska (thought it was a mistake at first and maybe HRV stood for (Bosnia and) Herzegovina)
While I knew the name, your comment made me wonder why Croatias country code is in their language while most others aren’t. Like, hungary would be Magyarország, which is also very different from their English name.
Also, Austrias country code is wrong in this map. It should be AUT, AUS is Australia.
It’s a lovely name! What I really want to know is, is it still pronounced like “Croatia”? In my mind you could kind of do it like “Hro-vaisha” maybe? Maybe someone who knows tha answer will show up!
Not at all similar.
The r after the H is"hard"/rolling. The Hr sound alone is probably where most non natives will have trouble. The closest sound is probably the pirate “Arrrr”.
The ts is a sharp “z” sound ( like the plural ending in farts) and the k sound is also hard/sharp ( like in Mikado).
Despite appearing and sounding different, Hrvatska is actually the modern development of the early medieval Latin word “Croatia”.
It’s also common in many languages to call the country by a translation of Croatia instead of Hrvatska. The proper way to address the country would be “Republic of Hrvatska” and its people as “Hrvati” instead of “Croats”.
There was a ceasefire. Hamas broke it.
And since that terrorist organization broke it, we should just bomb all the Palestinians and turn the whole region into a wasteland, right??
Anyone who thinks this is the fault of only one side has an agenda…
Bullshit. There was a truce and they couldn’t reach an agreement for the continuation. The first Bombs then flew from israel into Gaza. Since then more than 3.000 more Palestinians have been killed by Israel. For comparision since the October 7 attacks Hamas killed or taken hostage about 1.500 Israelis and people in Israel.
So just after the end of the truce, Israel killed twice as many people than Hamas did in the entirety of the past two months.
Also israel was kidnapping as many hostages as they released and broke the ceasefire by killing a civilian on day 1.
Hamas is surrendering en mass, from military point of view, a ceasefire now is a lost opportunity to bring your enemy to the knees
yet migration is away from green. kinda has you think maybe the green ones are just wrong.
Are you retarded
The short bus was missing a child. Thank you for finding them!
What is this? Canada just voted to support.
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