Senate bill aims to stop Uncle Sam using facial recognition at airports / Legislation would eliminate TSA permission to use the tech, require database purge in 90 days::Legislation would eliminate TSA permission to use the tech, require database purge in 90 days

  • paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works
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    The TSA’s use of CAT-2 involves scanning a passenger’s face and comparing it to a scanned ID card or passport. The system can detect fake IDs “very quickly,” a TSA official told us in July, and is also able to verify the person is on any additional screening lists and is actually scheduled to travel in the next 24 hours.

    This I’m ok with actually? The airport is already a place you expect to have to give your real identity to be there, and in the case of unfortunate people who share a name with a watchlist person this technology helps them travel normally without hours long interviews at every stop, I think mainly because the TSA agent can say the computer ok’d it instead of having to stick their neck out personally.

    I guess the problem would be if the new scans of your face collected by this software are connected to your identity and/or travel data and then exported to third parties who didn’t already have that info.

    Because by itself it isn’t really giving the TSA any new information. They have your id and your boarding pass. The government already knows who you are and where you’re going and this bill doesn’t stop them acquiring or keeping that information.

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      Remember when those millimeter wave scanning machines rolled out and we were all reassured that the technology, which would create very detailed body scans, would blur out genitalia, would not be saved, and employees would not have access to the scanned data?

      We then found out that nothing was blurred, the days was saved, the data was available to TSA agents to be copied onto God damn flash drives and we being traded?

      Yeah, notwithstanding but fuck this and I don’t trust the shitty security theater that is TSA to not advise this technology, not to mention that facial recognition has a myriad of problems with false positives with POC due to the well recognized racial bias being baked into theses systems because of the programmers who build and train these systems.

  • JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee
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    Japan uses this and scans you when you enter the country. Pass through quickly when you leave country and they know you are gone. It works but could definitely be misused in a country with lower standards of moral foundation.

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        Not really. But culturally, it is very different. Robberies are basically unknown. If someone loses a wallet, people look to return it. People on the subway are quiet and respectful. Litter is uncommon. I have been there a couple of times and sometimes wish I could live there. It is not a perfect place by any means. Just like anywhere. But it is SO different than China, S. Korea, or the US. Edit. Spelling

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          People on the subway are quiet and respectful

          This is the country with “women only” subway cars because there’s so much sexual assault on the subway? You were a tourist. That’s why they were polite to you.

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          People on the subway are quiet and respectful

          Lmao I literally got someone trying to put their hand up my clothes THREE different times on the subway and my neighbour got mugged at knifepoint in the year I lived there. But sure, Japan is a crime-free utopia.

          Not like Japanese cops are infamous for not prosecuting anything that isn’t a slam dunk or anything.

    • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
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      It works but could definitely be misused in a country with lower standards of moral foundation.

      No problem using it in the US then… homerfadeintohedge.gif

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    I travelled recently, and was filled with disgust when I was told to scan my boarding pass and look into the camera to get in line. I would have asked to go through an alternative line but didn’t want to miss my flight.

    What the fuck is wrong with people

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The US Transportation Security Administration’s plans to expand its use of facial recognition tech, already in use at several American airports, may be over before it begins if a newly introduced Senate bill becomes law.

    The bipartisan Traveler Privacy Protection Act [PDF], SB 3361, was introduced this week by Senators Jeff Merkley (D-OR) and John Kennedy (R-LA), and would stop the TSA’s use of facial biometrics dead in its tracks.

    “Every day, TSA scans thousands of Americans’ faces without their permission and without making it clear that travelers can opt out of the invasive screening,” said Senator Kennedy.

    Idemia’s full suite of biometric technology was recently rolled out by Interpol, which used it to make its first biometric-based arrest of a suspected smuggler who presented false papers at a police checkpoint in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

    The system can detect fake IDs “very quickly,” a TSA official told us in July, and is also able to verify the person is on any additional screening lists and is actually scheduled to travel in the next 24 hours.

    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign computer science professor and aviation security expert Sheldon Jacobson described the senators behind the proposal as well-intentioned, “albeit ill-qualified and ill-informed” to make such a call.


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  • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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    No facial recognition? That’s fine. They still have the scanner that sees you naked. They can set up genital recognition systems instead.

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    I recently took a cruise to Mexico, when we returned the customs line was very quick because of this technology. It scanned my face it and gave me a green light and I moved along.

    Since we were on a dedicated ship to one port I didn’t even get the where are you coming from and going to questions.

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        To be honest no one did since it was just a three-day to Mexico and only one port of call everyone was just shuffle through.

        I’m not saying it can’t be miss used, or that new tech is often riddled with issues. I appreciate not having to wait three hours to get through customs.

        I can’t imagine offloading one of the new 8000 passenger ships without this.